-----Original Message----- From: Christiano Moreschi [mailto:moreschiwikiman@hotmail.co.uk] Sent: Monday, April 9, 2007 05:02 AM To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Opt Out for Not So Notable Biographies Importance: High
Having our deletion policies dictated by Daniel Brandt is a bad idea.
Moreschi
Putting a cowcatcher on a locomotive is not necessarily motivated by compassion for a particular cow. There is a general issue his (over)reaction illustrates.
Fred
You'll forgive me, Fred, but I rather think this is a solution looking for a problem. Is there really a single situation where our existing system of BLP vigilance, emails to the Foundation, OTRS volunteers, AfDs, reliable sourcing, etc has failed to deal with people wanting their bios taken down/fixed with the exception of Daniel Brandt? Beyond Daniel Brandt, do we really have a problem here that needs fixing?
Moreschi
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Christiano Moreschi Is there really a single situation where our existing system of BLP vigilance, emails to the Foundation, OTRS volunteers, AfDs, reliable sourcing, etc has failed to deal with people wanting their bios taken down/fixed with the exception of Daniel Brandt?
Well, if you define "deal with people" as "has anyone else taken their unhappiness as far as has Daniel Brandt?", the answer is "No". But I don't think that would be a useful definition.
Beyond Daniel Brandt, do we really have a problem here that needs fixing?
Yes (IMHO).
My view is that I'm not going to go on a legal crusade over my own issues with Wikipedia - that for biographies of living people, it's an attractive nuisance and a weapon of asymmetrical warfare. But I sure do think it's a problem that needs fixing.
On 09/04/07, Seth Finkelstein sethf@sethf.com wrote:
Christiano Moreschi
Is there really a single situation where our existing system of BLP vigilance, emails to the Foundation, OTRS volunteers, AfDs, reliable sourcing, etc has failed to deal with people wanting their bios taken down/fixed with the exception of Daniel Brandt?
Well, if you define "deal with people" as "has anyone elsetaken their unhappiness as far as has Daniel Brandt?", the answer is "No". But I don't think that would be a useful definition.
Note that Daniel Brandt keeps putting himself into the media for things he does, making himself as notable as he can, and so would not in fact fall under any such rule.
- d.