From: Resid Gulerdem resid_gulerdem@yahoo.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: jwales@wikia.com CC: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] [[WP:OURS]] - A proposal for
admin-user relations
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2006 03:51:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia
To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] To: Jimmy Wales -
Admin-driven death of Wikipedia
Date: Sun, 04 Jun 2006 18:07:18 -0500
Resid Gulerdem wrote:
The admins are only part of the community now
and
will stay like that in the future, as far as I
can
see. Are some modifications needed in your
opinion? I
believe the answer is yes. I do not know if you
could
see the proposal [[WP:OURS]] I posted on this
list
recently. I think it can be useful and can be developed further. I tried to outline some
important
points which may reduce the conflicts between
the
admins and the users. If you saw it, do you
think
it
is feasible?
I see no reference to WP:OURS in google, so I am
unable to comment. Can
you send it to me?
The proposal [[WP:OURS]] is below. Since I am referring to another proposal
[[Wikipedia:Wikiethics]]
in this proposal, I copy-pasted the updated version
of
the Wikiethics proposal below too for your convenience. Right after the proposals, I provided further explanations about them.
Mr. Wales,
I was wondering if you could review the proposals. If you think that the concerns are valid and that the suggestions made in the proposals has some merit, I would be glad to discuss the issue (not the problems but the possible solutions which I think are reasonable) further. I have a couple of similar suggestions that I believe are critical and can be useful to gently modify the structure of the project and prepare it for the future if it will be expanding in the years to come.
Sincerely,
Resid
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:49:39 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
I was wondering if you could review the proposals. If you think that the concerns are valid and that the suggestions made in the proposals has some merit, I would be glad to discuss the issue (not the problems but the possible solutions which I think are reasonable) further. I have a couple of similar suggestions that I believe are critical and can be useful to gently modify the structure of the project and prepare it for the future if it will be expanding in the years to come.
Don't tell me: one of them calls for the removal of images which a small minority of editors find offensive from articles on important events, and another one calls for administrators to be prevented from blocking users who unilaterally remove content they find offensive despite overwhelming consensus to keep it? Am I close?
Guy (JzG)
It would be really nice if you stopped using the phrase "you wrote" with everything that you quote. I would be more enlightening if you identified the person who really said whatever is quoted. Doing so is certainly the norm for contributors to this list.
Ec
Guy Chapman aka JzG wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 02:49:39 -0700 (PDT), you wrote:
I was wondering if you could review the proposals. If you think that the concerns are valid and that the suggestions made in the proposals has some merit, I would be glad to discuss the issue (not the problems but the possible solutions which I think are reasonable) further. I have a couple of similar suggestions that I believe are critical and can be useful to gently modify the structure of the project and prepare it for the future if it will be expanding in the years to come.
Don't tell me: one of them calls for the removal of images which a small minority of editors find offensive from articles on important events, and another one calls for administrators to be prevented from blocking users who unilaterally remove content they find offensive despite overwhelming consensus to keep it? Am I close?
On Sun, 11 Jun 2006 12:11:15 -0700, Ray wrote:
It would be really nice if you stopped using the phrase "you wrote" with everything that you quote.
Default in my mail client, I never even thought about changing it before!
Guy (JzG)