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M Roget

15 Dec 2006 15 Dec '06

2:57 a.m.

On 12/13/06, Sarah (slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/12/06, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com

<http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote:

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*> On 12/12/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster at gmail.com

<http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: *>* >> *>* >> On 12/12/06, Luna <lunasantin at gmail.com <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: *>>*> > MONGO: I lost count. *>* >> Slimvirgin: at least 3 instances, one of which was "if you don't ban this *>* >> user I'm leaving." *>* >> FloNight: at least 2 instances. *

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I left once for about a week, and I believe FloNight left once too. Please get your facts straight.

If you were serious about leaving and not just pretending to in order to elicit a reaction why didn't you ask to by desysopped when you quit? Michel

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M Roget

15 Dec 15 Dec

3:03 a.m.

On 12/13/06, Sarah (slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/12/06, George Herbert <

george.herbert at gmail.com <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote:

*> On 12/12/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster at gmail.com <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l> wrote:

*>* >> *>* >> On 12/12/06, Luna <lunasantin at gmail.com <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: *>>*

> MONGO: I lost count.

*>* >> Slimvirgin: at least 3 instances, one of which was "if you don't ban this *>* >> user I'm leaving." *>* >> FloNight: at least 2 instances. *

I left once for about a week, and I believe FloNight left once too. Please get your facts straight.

If you were serious about leaving and not just pretending to in order to

elicit a reaction why didn't you ask to by desysopped when you quit? Michel

Parker Peters

3:52 a.m.

On 12/14/06, M Roget <mroget(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/13/06, Sarah (slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/12/06, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com

<http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote:

*> On 12/12/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster at gmail.com

I left once for about a week, and I believe FloNight left once too. Please get your facts straight.

If you were serious about leaving and not just pretending to in order to elicit a reaction why didn't you ask to by desysopped when you quit? Michel ___

After looking back at the affair, it seems to me that Slim and Flo's "leaving" was a ruse to get another admin punished for attempting to mend fences with one of Wikipedia's detractors. Parker

jayjg

4 p.m.

On 12/14/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/14/06, M Roget <mroget(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/13/06, Sarah (slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/12/06, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com

<http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote:

*> On 12/12/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster at gmail.com

I left once for about a week, and I believe FloNight left once too. Please get your facts straight.

If you were serious about leaving and not just pretending to in order to elicit a reaction why didn't you ask to by desysopped when you quit? Michel ___

After looking back at the affair, it seems to me that Slim and Flo's "leaving" was a ruse to get another admin punished for attempting to mend fences with one of Wikipedia's detractors. Parker

Looking back on your "contributions" to wikien-l, it seems to be that your own "leaving" Wikipedia was a ruse to pretend to be an admin, rather than just another banned troll who is now trolling wikien-l instead. Jay.

Parker Peters

5:14 p.m.

On 12/15/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/14/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/14/06, M Roget <mroget(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/13/06, Sarah (slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote: > >On 12/12/06, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com > <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: > >*> On 12/12/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster at gmail.com > <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: > *>* >> > *>* >> On 12/12/06, Luna <lunasantin at gmail.com > <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: > *>>*> > MONGO: I lost count. > *>* >> Slimvirgin: at least 3 instances, one of which was "if you

don't

> ban this > *>* >> user I'm leaving." > *>* >> FloNight: at least 2 instances. > * > >I left once for about a week, and I believe FloNight left once too. > >Please get your facts straight. > > If you were serious about leaving and not just pretending to in order

elicit a reaction why didn't you ask to by desysopped when you quit? Michel ___

After looking back at the affair, it seems to me that Slim and Flo's "leaving" was a ruse to get another admin punished for attempting to

mend

fences with one of Wikipedia's detractors. Parker

If you're quite done flaming the messenger? Thank you. Parker

jayjg

5:27 p.m.

On 12/15/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/15/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/14/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote:

don't

elicit a reaction why didn't you ask to by desysopped when you quit? Michel ___

After looking back at the affair, it seems to me that Slim and Flo's "leaving" was a ruse to get another admin punished for attempting to

mend

fences with one of Wikipedia's detractors. Parker

If you're quite done flaming the messenger? Thank you. Parker

Depends. Are you quite done trolling the list? Thank you, Jay.

James Hare

5:37 p.m.

Please refrain from accusing people of trolling. It's really not that pleasant. On 12/15/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/15/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/15/06, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/14/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On 12/14/06, M Roget <mroget(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On 12/13/06, Sarah (slimvirgin at gmail.com> wrote: > > > >On 12/12/06, George Herbert <george.herbert at gmail.com > > > <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: > > > >*> On 12/12/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster at gmail.com > > > <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: > > > *>* >> > > > *>* >> On 12/12/06, Luna <lunasantin at gmail.com > > > <http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l>> wrote: > > > *>>*> > MONGO: I lost count. > > > *>* >> Slimvirgin: at least 3 instances, one of which was "if you > don't > > > ban this > > > *>* >> user I'm leaving." > > > *>* >> FloNight: at least 2 instances. > > > * > > > >I left once for about a week, and I believe FloNight left once

too.

> > > >Please get your facts straight. > > > > > > If you were serious about leaving and not just pretending to in

order

> to > > > elicit a reaction why didn't you ask to by desysopped when you

quit?

> > Michel > ___ After looking back at the affair, it seems to me that Slim and Flo's "leaving" was a ruse to get another admin punished for attempting to

mend

fences with one of Wikipedia's detractors. Parker

If you're quite done flaming the messenger? Thank you. Parker

Depends. Are you quite done trolling the list? Thank you, Jay. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Guy Chapman aka JzG

5:43 p.m.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:37:03 -0500, "James Hare" <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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Please refrain from accusing people of trolling. It's really not that pleasant.

The trolling itself is worse, though :-) Guy (JzG) -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG

Parker Peters

5:52 p.m.

On 12/15/06, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman(a)spamcop.net> wrote:

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On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:37:03 -0500, "James Hare" <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Please refrain from accusing people of trolling. It's really not that pleasant.

The trolling itself is worse, though :-) Guy (JzG)

I've spent a lot of time discussing this with Jimbo, he's already emailed two people who were vexatiously trolling me, and I'd prefer not to have people trying to troll me. It does nothing for the discussion. In other words, stop trying to [[shoot the messenger]] please. I agree with about half of what I've seen you write, and I wish you didn't have this chip on your shoulder making you accuse anyone who disagrees with you of trolling. It doesn't help the debate in any fashion. That goes for you too, Jay. Parker

jayjg

6:32 p.m.

On 12/15/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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On 12/15/06, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman(a)spamcop.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:37:03 -0500, "James Hare" <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Please refrain from accusing people of trolling. It's really not that pleasant.

The trolling itself is worse, though :-) Guy (JzG)

There's no message, though, aside from "I'm a troll, please feed me". Jay.

Guy Chapman aka JzG

11:56 p.m.

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 13:32:37 -0500, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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There's no message, though, aside from "I'm a troll, please feed me".

Yup. He's wasting his time posting to me anyway, since he's now in my killfile, but in the quoted reply I see he accuses me of being chippy. Like the good book says, "The mote that is in the eye of your brother you see; but the beam that is in your own eye, you see not!" One day, perhaps, the on-the-way out will turn into the gone-for-ever, as promised... Guy (JzG) -- http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JzG

Alphax (Wikipedia email)

16 Dec 16 Dec

2:16 a.m.

New subject: Admins who pretend to quit (was Re: MONGO and the ArbComm)

jayjg wrote:

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On 12/15/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote:

On 12/15/06, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman(a)spamcop.net> wrote:

On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:37:03 -0500, "James Hare" <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote:

Please refrain from accusing people of trolling. It's really not that pleasant.

The trolling itself is worse, though :-) Guy (JzG)

There's no message, though, aside from "I'm a troll, please feed me".

Actually, there /is/ a message; it's just that we've become so used to screams of "omg admin abuse" that we tend to dismiss them outright before checking to see if they're valid, which this one appears to be. My apologies to Parker. -- Alphax - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax Contributor to Wikipedia, the Free Encyclopedia "We make the internet not suck" - Jimbo Wales Public key: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Alphax/OpenPGP

Parker Peters

5:28 a.m.

On 12/15/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) <alphasigmax(a)gmail.com> wrote:

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jayjg wrote:

On 12/15/06, Parker Peters <onmywayoutster(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On 12/15/06, Guy Chapman aka JzG <guy.chapman(a)spamcop.net> wrote: >> On Fri, 15 Dec 2006 12:37:03 -0500, "James Hare" >> <messedrocker(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Please refrain from accusing people of trolling. It's really not that >>> pleasant. >> The trolling itself is worse, though :-) >> >> Guy (JzG) > > I've spent a lot of time discussing this with Jimbo, he's already

emailed

> two people who were vexatiously trolling me, and I'd prefer not to have > people trying to troll me. It does nothing for the discussion. > > In other words, stop trying to [[shoot the messenger]] please. I agree

with

> about half of what I've seen you write, and I wish you didn't have this

chip

on your shoulder making you accuse anyone who disagrees with you of trolling. It doesn't help the debate in any fashion. That goes for you too, Jay.

There's no message, though, aside from "I'm a troll, please feed me".

The apology is accepted, and I thank you for having the class to make it. Parker

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