From: daniwo59@aol.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] A danger of massive homework and research requests Date: Thu, 29 Jan 2004 07:27:52 EST To: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org
Wikipedia is becoming a resource. What more can we ask for? I also answered, like this:
"Here's a hint for your homework: Look up: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulf_stream"
It hardly delayed the expansion of Wikipedia. On the other hand, I do think a place or list for people to ask questions of this kind is a good idea. In fact, it would be helpful to us in finding out where we should focus some of our energies to fill in incomplete articles. We could link to it from the Main Page.
Danny
Isn't that what Wikibooks's completely neglected [[Study help desk]] was supposed to be for?
LDan
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On 01/29/04 19:28, Daniel Ehrenberg wrote:
From: daniwo59@aol.com
It hardly delayed the expansion of Wikipedia. On the other hand, I do think a place or list for people to ask questions of this kind is a good idea. In fact, it would be helpful to us in finding out where we should focus some of our energies to fill in incomplete articles. We could link to it from the Main Page.
Isn't that what Wikibooks's completely neglected [[Study help desk]] was supposed to be for?
As the Usenet 2 FAQ points out, naming is everything.
A link from the main page might be good. "Got a question and the answer isn't [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awikipedia.org here]? Ask at the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:reference desk]]!"
The problem would be the bottom 1% of respondents: the people with an overwhelming sense of entitlement. "You didn't answer my question. You suck."
- d.
David Gerard wrote:
On 01/29/04 19:28, Daniel Ehrenberg wrote:
From: daniwo59@aol.com
It hardly delayed the expansion of Wikipedia. On the other hand, I do think a place or list for people to ask questions of this kind is a good idea. In fact, it would be helpful to us in finding out where we should focus some of our energies to fill in incomplete articles. We could link to it from the Main Page.
Isn't that what Wikibooks's completely neglected [[Study help desk]] was supposed to be for?
As the Usenet 2 FAQ points out, naming is everything.
I've been around for a while, and never knew about thise feature. Wikibooks sounds like the probably correct place for this. It will still need to be linked from Wikipedia, or users may never find it. By allowing these questions to serve as a basis for Wikipedia articles, we are building in a public responsiveness that traditional encyclopedias are incapable of doing.
Getting something like this to work will depend on the resolution to the article classification issue. The list of questions could get very long very quickly, and thus not usable.
A link from the main page might be good. "Got a question and the answer isn't [http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Awikipedia.org here]? Ask at the Wikipedia [[Wikipedia:reference desk]]!"
The problem would be the bottom 1% of respondents: the people with an overwhelming sense of entitlement. "You didn't answer my question. You suck."
What complaint can they have when they got advice that's as good as the money they paid? ;-)
Like Ed I too would be concerned if all we ended up doing is other people's homework. That is not sound educational technique. If the question is about something that is already in Wikipedia it would be more appropriate to simply provide links to the relevant articles in WP, sometimes mixed with a little humourous sarcasm when it seems that the student is trying to get us to do the work that he should be doing himself. If our approach is one that the teaching professionals approve, we could end up with teachers recommending Wikipedia as a resource.
Ec
User:CrucifiedChrist has decided to re-join us. Can we do something to force him to change his name, please?
RickK
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