In a message dated 3/2/2008 7:51:42 A.M. Pacific Standard Time, eugene@vanderpijll.nl writes:
On the other hand, in terms of WP policy this is probably never acceptable; since we are "in contact" with the copyright holder, there is a possibility to get a proper free license from him, and therefore the current image is replaceable.>>
---------------------------- "Replaceable" is a very tenuous term. If we have no free-use image, we should be and are free to use a fair-use image *until* such time as we do have a free-use image.
Not just until some time as someone figures out that an image *might* be able to be replaced somehow (but we don't have one);
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On 02/03/2008, WJhonson@aol.com WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
"Replaceable" is a very tenuous term. If we have no free-use image, we should be and are free to use a fair-use image *until* such time as we do have a free-use image.
We tried that. Our living people bios ended up lousy with copyvios with fair use tags and no one really looked for free replacements.
Not just until some time as someone figures out that an image *might* be able to be replaced somehow (but we don't have one);
If an image can be replaced then it can be replaced. We can get by without an image untill a free one becomes available.
On 02/03/2008, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 02/03/2008, WJhonson@aol.com WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
"Replaceable" is a very tenuous term. If we have no free-use image, we should be and are free to use a fair-use image *until* such time as we do have a free-use image.
We tried that. Our living people bios ended up lousy with copyvios with fair use tags and no one really looked for free replacements.
Indeed. Whereas no non-free images on living bios (with some very rare exceptions in the cases of noted recluses, e.g. [[J. D. Salinger]]) and placeholders saying "Replace this image" has gotten us at least usable and, in some cases, high-quality promotional images (e.g. [[Vox Day]] releasing one of his promo images under GFDL because he saw the placeholder on his article).
So a fairly hard-arsed policy of (almost) no non-free images on living bios notably works to get us, and hence the world, more free content, often quite good free content. And once it's free content, it's free forever [*].
[*] barring retrospective changes to copyright law, e.g. theft from the public domain by means of term extension.
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WJhonson@aol.com schreef:
"Replaceable" is a very tenuous term. If we have no free-use image, we should be and are free to use a fair-use image *until* such time as we do have a free-use image.
That's your opinion; and legally, you're correct, we could do that.
It's just that policy doesn't agree with you on this point. The board has said we shouldn't rely on fair use until we have a free-use image.
Eugene