Anyone interested in doing for citations what the stub-sorting project did for stubs?
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Akash Mehta draicone@gmail.com Date: 02-Sep-2006 22:39 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] Lists of book references and external links To: wikipedia-l@wikimedia.org
That sounds like a really good idea, and we could use a formal wikiproject to encourage people to help establish these citation collections. I'm starting a draft at [[User:Draicone/WikiProject Reference Help]] if anyone wants to help. If we get a decent plan we can move it to the WP space.
On 9/3/06, Bryan Derksen bryan.derksen@shaw.ca wrote:
Matt Brown wrote:
I've learned, personally, {{cite web}} and {{cite book}}'s fundamentals, and look stuff up from time to time. I've also created subst:able templates for reference works I cite a lot, so I don't have to do the thinking.
Way back when I was doing a bunch of work citing various articles about Stargate subjects and I kept using the same episode citations over and over. I considered creating a group of templates specifically for those cites, for example
<ref>{{cite stargate sg-1/broca's gap}}</ref>
So I wouldn't have to keep looking up airdates and other details to fill in, and if the citation format changed or more information became available they could all be updated with a single edit. Perhaps some sort of formalized system along these lines might be useful for common references? <ref>{{cite collection/Oxford dictionary 2006}}, p. 1245</ref> for example. These big bibliographic lists would then become collections of templates like this and they'd make better project pages.
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On 9/2/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone interested in doing for citations what the stub-sorting project did for stubs?
You mean create an arcane bureaucracy that tries to efface anything it considers "unapproved" and screams bloody murder if anybody uses "their" terminology without asking for permission?
Somehow this doesn't strike me as a good idea.
On 03/09/06, Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/2/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone interested in doing for citations what the stub-sorting project did for stubs?
You mean create an arcane bureaucracy that tries to efface anything it considers "unapproved" and screams bloody murder if anybody uses "their" terminology without asking for permission? Somehow this doesn't strike me as a good idea.
At least they're not editing the article text!
- d.
I suppose its not really correct to liken the cause to what stub sorting did for stubs, but surely there'd be interest from those familiar with ref tags and cite templates.
On 9/3/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 03/09/06, Kirill Lokshin kirill.lokshin@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/2/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Anyone interested in doing for citations what the stub-sorting project did for stubs?
You mean create an arcane bureaucracy that tries to efface anything it considers "unapproved" and screams bloody murder if anybody uses "their" terminology without asking for permission? Somehow this doesn't strike me as a good idea.
At least they're not editing the article text!
- d.
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