Daniel R. Tobias wrote:
On 2 Jul 2007 at 17:36:03 +0000,
wikien-l-request(a)lists.wikime wrote:
No, I just read the link wrong. I made a mistake.
Good thing I
wasn't flying an airplane : I'm sorry if I hurt anyone's feelings.
Or stirred them up unnecessarily.
Unfortunately, this is not the first time you've "stirred" something
up unnecessarily as a result of your failure to properly understand
policy or the facts of a situation. A couple of months ago, on this
list, you were pushing an odd interpretation of the WP:BLP policy
that allegedly held that, if any admin claimed that BLP was being
violated, and deleted an article as a result, then this decision was
unreviewable and unassailable, except by a full-blown Arbcom case,
even if the original admin was completely wrongheaded about it.
(And, given that somebody recently even attempted a serious argument
to the effect that [[Jesus Christ]] was covered by BLP because he
rose from the grave, one can't be sure of the policy always being
applied sensibly; the checks and balances of normal policy and
process are important for helping this.) You were claiming (with no
justification) that all of this was provided in the BLP policy, but
had to back down from that, and the policy now is that normal process
such as DRV can in fact be applied, though there's a presumption in
favor of keeping deleted in the case of BLPs anyway.
I expect much better from somebody in a position of trust who's
tasked with interpreting policy and passing judgment on Wikipedians.
You have made some valid points, but the important thing about the
thread is not in attacking Fred, but in pointing out the failings in the
ruling. What is most irritating about the decision is the final phrase,
"under any circumstances."
Most of us are not likely to have any desire to link to the subject
sites anyway, with or without this prohibition. Doing so would be too
infantile, and probably too boring, but we can conceive the possibility
of circumstances where a link would be sensible. Such links exist in a
context, and I think that I can safely speculate that individuals who
would get such a matter to the point of their being a consideration by
Arbcom did so by doing more than just add a link. One cannot foretell
what some other person's reasons for adding the link will be. There is
little point for making those arguments, when one has no ib=nention to
create the links in the first place.
Zero tolerance policies are rarely constructive bcause they make no
allowance for the long tail.
Ec