-----Original Message----- From: jayjg [mailto:jayjg99@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 08:32 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"onattackkkkk site link policy
The only link ban I push is the one remedy in MONGO which applies only to ED. I would discourage attempts to broaden that to most other critical sites.
Fred
Perhaps you forget these statements Fred:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitr... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Attack_sites&di...
There's no need to apologize for them either, as you were right.
Jay.
I'll certainly stand by this:
"Links to aggressive attacks on Wikipedia users may be removed. No oneneeds permission, no one needs to spend time making a policy about it,or arguing about it."
Fred
On 03/07/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
I'll certainly stand by this:
"Links to aggressive attacks on Wikipedia users may be removed. No oneneeds permission, no one needs to spend time making a policy about it,or arguing about it."
It's a long way from that to "sites that contain attacks on Wikipedia users must not be linked to at all - not even parts of the site that do not contain such attacks".
Ironically, so would I, and many of the other users who reject policies such as BADSITES and its numerous incarnations.
Removing such links isn't controversial; it's basic common sense. No policy is necessary, it just is done, and the only ones who whine are the trolls, generally those who posted the link in the first place.
Blanket bans, however, don't fall under this same common sense concept. That's what the community has soundly rejected, yet this same proposal keeps rearing its ugly head at every turn.
Fred Bauder wrote:
I'll certainly stand by this:
"Links to aggressive attacks on Wikipedia users may be removed. No oneneeds permission, no one needs to spend time making a policy about it,or arguing about it."
Fred
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Fred Bauder wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: jayjg [mailto:jayjg99@gmail.com]
The only link ban I push is the one remedy in MONGO which applies only to ED. I would discourage attempts to broaden that to most other critical sites.
Fred
Perhaps you forget these statements Fred:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitr... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Attack_sites&di...
There's no need to apologize for them either, as you were right.
I'll certainly stand by this:
"Links to aggressive attacks on Wikipedia users may be removed. No oneneeds permission, no one needs to spend time making a policy about it,or arguing about it."
There's a difference between an attack and an attack site. An attack site can still have other pages that are fairly normal.
Ec