-----Original Message----- From: Joe Szilagyi [mailto:szilagyi@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 01:02 PM To: 'English Wikipedia' Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] BLP, and admin role in overriding community review
On 5/23/07, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
That's pretty much the rule Jimbo declared and the ArbCom and really quite a lot of the admins work to, yes. As I said, BLP beats DRV.
Back to the problem: as an admin, you say [[Joe Szilagyi]] is a BLP vio. Nuke it. Admin Bob says, "No, it wasn't a BLP vio. I will DRV this." He does. 10 people say, "Overturn. No BLP issues. Sourcing good." You and two others say, "BLP vio. Closing as endorsed deletion."
Who is right? Why is your interpretation of BLP more valid than Bob's? If DRV is not a valid place to decide if [[Joe Szilagyi]] is a BLP vio, where is? Who gets to play Solomon? ArbCom? ANI? You? Bob?
Regards, Joe http://www.joeszilagyi.com
If an article has been deleted as a BLP violation a DRV is inappropriate. The appropriate venue is dispute resolution. The article stays deleted until there is an Arbitration Committee to the contrary.
Fred
On Wed, May 23, 2007 12:32 pm, Fred Bauder wrote:
If an article has been deleted as a BLP violation a DRV is inappropriate. The appropriate venue is dispute resolution. The article stays deleted until there is an Arbitration Committee to the contrary.
And which policy says this?
-Jeff
On 23/05/07, Jeff Raymond jeff.raymond@internationalhouseofbacon.com wrote:
On Wed, May 23, 2007 12:32 pm, Fred Bauder wrote:
If an article has been deleted as a BLP violation a DRV is inappropriate. The appropriate venue is dispute resolution. The article stays deleted until there is an Arbitration Committee to the contrary.
And which policy says this?
Jimbo said it and it's been precedent since.
Note that BLP is neutrality, verifiability and no original research all turned up to 11. If you want to over throw that, or turn it back to 10 or 9, you'll need to do so in ways that don't lead lots of people to say (as they have been) "um, Jeff, please do this in a less dickish way."
- d.