Is there a professional human factors expert in the house?
- d.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com Date: 24 Feb 2008 12:58 Subject: Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Musing with professional photographers: further lessons learned To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On 24/02/2008, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 24/02/2008, Chris McKenna cmckenna@sucs.org wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Florian Straub wrote:
I like the idea, but aren't magnifiers reserved for "search"?
In PDF readers at least, magnifiers are used for zoom, and binoculours (sp?) for search.
My unscientific sample of two said "it'd give you a bigger version" when I asked them what they thought it meant. It looks a lot like the magnifier on Adobe Acrobat.
I stress again that we need a proper professional human factors expert on the case. Is there anyone reading this who counts as such, who could tell us the right questions to ask? Then all interested parties can run this right set of questions past people they know!
- d.
# sit user in front of wikipedia, ask them to find an image of, say, Ghandi #*cringe as they go through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=image+of+ghandi&go=Go and the like #* eventually: arrive at, say, [[Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi]] # ask user: who do you think made this image? how would you find out? #* sit back and try not to get worked up that they don't click the image to see a larger size and the author information :) #* eventually: arrive, at e.g. <nowiki>[[Image:Gandhi_studio_1931.jpg]]</nowiki> # ask user: who put this image on this page? how would you find out? #* '''note''': you could switch q2 and q3, and you could add things like "do you think you are allowed to use this image on your own web site" -- the questions are asking for various aspects of the information present on the image detail page
Lather, rinse, repeat with different icons and variations of credits under/around/near the image. I think this may be one of those rare occasions when eye tracking *might* be useful.
Oh, and this may also help improve the design of the image detail page, which, frankly, is horrendous.
Michel Vuijlsteke Deisgn advisor, www.namahn.com :)
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a professional human factors expert in the house?
- d.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com Date: 24 Feb 2008 12:58 Subject: Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Musing with professional photographers: further lessons learned To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On 24/02/2008, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 24/02/2008, Chris McKenna cmckenna@sucs.org wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Florian Straub wrote:
I like the idea, but aren't magnifiers reserved for "search"?
In PDF readers at least, magnifiers are used for zoom, and
binoculours
(sp?) for search.
My unscientific sample of two said "it'd give you a bigger version" when I asked them what they thought it meant. It looks a lot like the magnifier on Adobe Acrobat.
I stress again that we need a proper professional human factors expert on the case. Is there anyone reading this who counts as such, who could tell us the right questions to ask? Then all interested parties can run this right set of questions past people they know!
- d.
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Most useful response of the thread ;-)
I suppose for this issue (testing various indicators) we'd make mockup pages that work just like the Wikipedia page, but which have the various options for magnifier icons - so not just the framed image with the various possible icons, but a whole page with them.
Then we can try each on a few people and collate our results in this thread. Then someone can gather those *all* up and add them to the bug.
Sound like a plan?
- d.
On 24/02/2008, Michel Vuijlsteke wikipedia@zog.org wrote:
# sit user in front of wikipedia, ask them to find an image of, say, Ghandi #*cringe as they go through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Search?search=image+of+ghandi&go=Go and the like #* eventually: arrive at, say, [[Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi]] # ask user: who do you think made this image? how would you find out? #* sit back and try not to get worked up that they don't click the image to see a larger size and the author information :) #* eventually: arrive, at e.g. <nowiki>[[Image:Gandhi_studio_1931.jpg]]</nowiki> # ask user: who put this image on this page? how would you find out? #* '''note''': you could switch q2 and q3, and you could add things like "do you think you are allowed to use this image on your own web site" -- the questions are asking for various aspects of the information present on the image detail page
Lather, rinse, repeat with different icons and variations of credits under/around/near the image. I think this may be one of those rare occasions when eye tracking *might* be useful.
Oh, and this may also help improve the design of the image detail page, which, frankly, is horrendous.
Michel Vuijlsteke Deisgn advisor, www.namahn.com :)
On Sun, Feb 24, 2008 at 1:58 PM, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Is there a professional human factors expert in the house?
- d.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com Date: 24 Feb 2008 12:58 Subject: Re: [Commons-l] [WikiEN-l] Musing with professional photographers: further lessons learned To: Wikimedia Commons Discussion List commons-l@lists.wikimedia.org
On 24/02/2008, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 24/02/2008, Chris McKenna cmckenna@sucs.org wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2008, Florian Straub wrote:
I like the idea, but aren't magnifiers reserved for "search"?
In PDF readers at least, magnifiers are used for zoom, and
binoculours
(sp?) for search.
My unscientific sample of two said "it'd give you a bigger version" when I asked them what they thought it meant. It looks a lot like the magnifier on Adobe Acrobat.
I stress again that we need a proper professional human factors expert on the case. Is there anyone reading this who counts as such, who could tell us the right questions to ask? Then all interested parties can run this right set of questions past people they know!
- d.
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