Someone wrote "You want TBSDY desysopped because he blocked SS-88 after he said this:"

"You consider the right side of the fence to be on the

side of the

haters. You call us stupid, but you should know that we

have a log of

your hatred and abuse of "power" against one of our

comrades. THAT WAS

STUPID! Your actions have been documented and have, so

far, been

circulated to thousands of aryans who do not look kindly

on your type

of hatred. You know what happens to people who ignore

history......

88 !!"

...

I refer you to the blocking policy: "Blocks may be imposed in instances where threats have

been made or

...

actions performed (including actions outside the

Wikipedia site)

...

which expose other Wikipedia editors to political,

religious or other

...

persecution by government, their employer or any others.

In such

...

a case a ban for a period of time may be applied

immediately by any

...

sysop upon discovery. "

Teresa responded, very rationaly:

This looks like a pretty straightforward case to me

It also sounds straightforward to me. If we allow violent hatespeech by Nazis, white supremacists, Nation of Islam black supremacists, "Heil Hitler" comments, and the like on Wikipedia, we will instantly become a joke.

The use of Wikipedia would then rightly be banned by all high schools, and by most colleges. Professional scholars and academics will be forced to see Wikipedia not as an encyclopedia, but rather as some sort of sick experiment in using the phrase "free speech" as an excuse to shove the most violent hate and lies, and as a forum where dispassionate and rational contributors are scared off.

Many present and potential black contributors will *certainly* be driven away if allow them to be the victims of such abuse and persecution. The same is true for many present and potential Jewish, Gay, and other contributors. The project will simply cease to exist as it presently does.

Already I have been pursued by one many who openly identified himself as a Nazi (John Hoode, aka Mr. Natural Health) and was threatened by Craig, Entmoots of Trolls, who promised to send me identity to fundamentalist Islamist groups, who at the time (and now) were mass murdering Jews and many others. Now we have a number of individuals with similar beliefs attacking non-"Aryans", saying "88" (code for "Heil Hitler", and abusing and driving away decent contributors.

Any rational person should see this as the death of Wikipedia, and most of our Sysops rightly ban such actions. So I was hurt and stunned when Zero 0000 _again_ defended Nazi hatespeech and harassment, and called for its acceptance on Wikipedia.

Zero 0000 writes:

I must be missing something. How do these (highly

offensive)

remarks expose this sysop to "political, religious or

other

persecution by government, their employer or any others"?

These attacks in of themselves are persecution and harassment. Maybe you don't know what it is like to be a black person, a gay person, or a Jew, but many of us do. Being cyver-followed around by hatemongers who scream "Heil Hitler" and who abuse us, and who advocate violence, is by the very definition of the word "persecution". How can people not recognize this?

Unless the sysop lives in a state with a Nazi government,

it

is clear to me that there is no such exposure.

Is this an ironic joke, or are you writing as if such hatespeech does not exist? Do you have any idea how many Jews, gays and blacks are beaten each year by the very people who engage in such harassment and hatespeech? In my own town in the USA a Jewish synagogue was burned less than four years ago by people spewing this hatespeech. In my own school we have had Jews taunted and swastikas drawn on the walls and posters. We also have had death threats made against blacks by certain white groups...and these threats led to serious beatings of black students less than three months ago.

Free speech about killing Jews always leads to killing Jews. The same is true about speech towards killing "niggers" or "queers". Have we learned nothing from the 20th century?

I find Zero's acceptance of this violent, explicitly Nazi hatespeech to be a clear danger to Wikipedia. We can be an encyclopedia where hatemongers are not welcome, working to create a peer-reviewed NPOV open-source encyclopedia. Or we can allow those people Zero continually defends to destroy our own work, and make us a laughing stock in the eyes of the rest of the world.

The choice is clear.

Robert (RK)

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