Robert,

Either develop a "thicker skin" or just pay no attention to Cunc's remarks at all.

Meanwhile, while describing the monotheistic religions' approach to idol worship, etc., I hope you have been reading my comments here on the mailing list, as well as at [[talk:idolatry]].

Apparently some proponents of polytheism feel their POV has been mischaracterized. So you and they may be arguing at cross purposes.

One of the benefits of a truly neutral religious article is (or should be!) that all parties will agree that the article describes the religion in question, accurately.

Perhaps we need to focus more on: * what various polytheists believe * whether anyone ever worshipped idols (or still does) * what the ancient Bible verses meant: "have no other gods", "do not make or worship idols"

Just to change the subject slightly, I wonder whether modern Krishna Consciousness devotees would concede that they "worship idols"? I was invited to view the inner recesses of a Hare Krishna temple and shown what one young, enthusiastic devotee called "dolls" -- full-size mannequins which resembled pictures of various Hindu deities. The devotee's task was to wash and dress these "dolls", as he called them.

And one more possible red herring. Members of the Unification Church bow down in front of a photograph of the "True Parents" (as we call Rev. & Mrs. Moon) in a weekly and monthly Pledge Service. Are we worshipping idols? (Don't worry: I won't fight with you on this -- ask Vicki, I'm very nice when it comes to interacting online with others who don't share my faith!)

Ed Poor

-----Original Message----- From: Robert [mailto:rkscience100@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, April 11, 2003 11:06 AM To: wikien-l@wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Should we do things Fred and Cunctator's way, or act like adults?

I should point out that the Cunctator's remarks about the dispute in the Idolatry Talk page were dishonest and misleading.

I was angered at Dietary Fiber for making certain remarks, especially the ones in which he/she attacked my religious beliefs, and made me out to be someone slandering all polytheists. (And I have never done this.) I was also bothered by Dietary Fiber's fake quotes (which my critics here are blatantly lying about)

Yet Cunctator ignored those particular remarks, and implied that they didn't even exist. When Cunctator did make some brief quotes, he left the particular quotes in question out! A lie by omission is a lie nonetheless.

Hey, maybe we should edit some Wikipedia articles today! We can forge a quote from Cunctator, questions his religious beliefs, and attack positions he does not have! We can also do the same thing to Fred Bauder! And then when they complain, we can insult them, and deny that these attacks against them even exist! Hurrah! How wonderfully fun it would be to join in with this type of trolling!

Or we can cut the crap and learn to act like adults. Some of us are here to do some serious work on this encyclopedia project.

RK

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