Dear Mr. Wales.
I don't know if you will read this. I don't even know if you care what goes on in "your" encyclopedia, but I feel I must at least try to reach you.
My wikipedia username was "One Elephant went out to play...". I chose this username because my young cousins have really liked the tapes that my parents made for me of the Nickelodeon television show "elephant show", which I had been a fan of, and I wanted to bring that mentality - one which delights in learning, which delights in getting along with people - when I edited. Logging in with the first line of the song reminded me of that.
When I started editing, I had two troubles. At first, I did not understand the logging in system, and I created a second account before realizing that I did not need to wait for a confirmation email before I could log in. Someone named Betacommand blocked the username as well claiming it was a violation of your username policies, which I contested and Mike Rosoft agreed with me and allowed me to start editing. I never wound up using the second account, and as far as I know it has been deleted.
I edited on a number of articles, sometimes finding things I was interested in and sometimes clicking randomly. I learned about and tried to read the policy pages, I asked for help when I could not figure things out.
A couple weeks later, I saw something I thought was wrong. User Bastique had reverted the "National Council of La Raza" page, where I had previously left a note asking users to calm down and not edit war, and then locked it to his own preferred version. I thought this was wrong, so I left him a note explaining why I was reverting it back. He started attacking and threatening me from that point forward, and I reported him to the WP:ANI page, only to be continually attacked by more of his friends it seems as they constantly violated WP:CIVIL and WP:NPA guidelines, I assume trying to provoke me into doing likewise.
I brought the question to this mailing list, and was given some better responses, and I was half convinced to return to Wikipedia by that point. Some users on Wikipedia had left me messages and email requesting I give Wikipedia a second chance, even a couple users I had not entirely agreed with, and remembering my earlier situation when people had been helpful, I wanted to give the project the benefit of the doubt.
Today, however, I was called a "troll" by someone on this list, and then my account was set back to moderation. This proved to me that there is something wrong on wikipedia, and I resolved to leave. I set my user page in order, left one final help request to set my goodbye message properly (which A Train kindly assisted with), and began leaving notes so that those I had interacted with would know not to expect responses from me.
When I tried to leave a note for Mike Rosoft in thanks for his kind assistance in the past, I found myself banned entirely from the project by user JzG, who called me a "troll." I saw him going around removing my goodbye notes as well.
I requested assistance in a help template, and user Steel359 who had been one of Bastique's earlier incivil supporters not only removed it but locked my talk page as a blank, removing my goodbye message. He then left a lie on my user page, claiming I am someone named runedchozo that I have never even heard of before.
Sir, if this is how your administrators behave then it is no wonder the project no matter how noble its goals is failing.
Goodbye.
On 3/16/07, Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com wrote:
Sir, if this is how your administrators behave then it is no wonder the project no matter how noble its goals is failing.
Is there any evidence it's failing?
Steve
Sir,
My treatment at the hands of your "administrators" shows that it is.
The lies they got away with and have now put to falsely accuse me of on my former page are enough to convince me you are corrupt beyond saving.
On 3/16/07, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/16/07, Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com wrote:
Sir, if this is how your administrators behave then it is no wonder the project no matter how noble its goals is failing.
Is there any evidence it's failing?
Steve
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Sir,
I have received no response since this time, but the person who defaced my user page and posted lies about me and closed my talk page to prevent my even leaving a goodbye message since has posted a lie claiming I am someone I am not.
If necessary I will seek out your phone number and call you directly. I hope that this is not necessary, but I fear that it may be.
You appear to have a severe problem on your hands with the behavior of a very corrupt, sad, and hurtful group of individuals.
I have also requested information on whether a group calling themselves wikipediareview.com, who have contacted me asking me to tell them "my side" of the story and sent links regarding another administrator who they claim to have investigated, are actually connected with you or not. None of those of your subordinates I have contacted to try to ask, are responding.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com Date: Mar 16, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An Open Letter to Mr. Wales To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sir,
My treatment at the hands of your "administrators" shows that it is.
The lies they got away with and have now put to falsely accuse me of on my former page are enough to convince me you are corrupt beyond saving.
On 3/16/07, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/16/07, Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com wrote:
Sir, if this is how your administrators behave then it is no wonder the project no matter how noble its goals is failing.
Is there any evidence it's failing?
Steve
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On 3/16/07, Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com wrote:
Sir,
I have received no response since this time, but the person who defaced my user page and posted lies about me and closed my talk page to prevent my even leaving a goodbye message since has posted a lie claiming I am someone I am not.
If necessary I will seek out your phone number and call you directly. I hope that this is not necessary, but I fear that it may be.
You appear to have a severe problem on your hands with the behavior of a very corrupt, sad, and hurtful group of individuals.
I have also requested information on whether a group calling themselves wikipediareview.com, who have contacted me asking me to tell them "my side" of the story and sent links regarding another administrator who they claim to have investigated, are actually connected with you or not. None of those of your subordinates I have contacted to try to ask, are responding.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com Date: Mar 16, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An Open Letter to Mr. Wales To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sir,
My treatment at the hands of your "administrators" shows that it is.
The lies they got away with and have now put to falsely accuse me of on my former page are enough to convince me you are corrupt beyond saving.
On 3/16/07, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/16/07, Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com wrote:
Sir, if this is how your administrators behave then it is no wonder the project no matter how noble its goals is failing.
Is there any evidence it's failing?
Steve
There exists a checkuser result on Lois Bram Sharon's account "One Elephant went out to play...", linking the account directly with RunedChozo, who as you all may remember was booted off the list for profanity and so forth. CU was run by a Steward and not recorded on-wiki.
It's reasonable to presume that this is Michael, and he's just trying to waste our time. I find this very dissapointing.
Sir,
that cannot possibly be correct.
On 3/17/07, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/16/07, Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com wrote:
Sir,
I have received no response since this time, but the person who defaced
my
user page and posted lies about me and closed my talk page to prevent my even leaving a goodbye message since has posted a lie claiming I am
someone
I am not.
If necessary I will seek out your phone number and call you directly. I
hope
that this is not necessary, but I fear that it may be.
You appear to have a severe problem on your hands with the behavior of a very corrupt, sad, and hurtful group of individuals.
I have also requested information on whether a group calling themselves wikipediareview.com, who have contacted me asking me to tell them "my
side"
of the story and sent links regarding another administrator who they
claim
to have investigated, are actually connected with you or not. None of
those
of your subordinates I have contacted to try to ask, are responding.
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com Date: Mar 16, 2007 10:20 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] An Open Letter to Mr. Wales To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Sir,
My treatment at the hands of your "administrators" shows that it is.
The lies they got away with and have now put to falsely accuse me of on
my
former page are enough to convince me you are corrupt beyond saving.
On 3/16/07, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
On 3/16/07, Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com wrote:
Sir, if this is how your administrators behave then it is no wonder
the
project no matter how noble its goals is failing.
Is there any evidence it's failing?
Steve
There exists a checkuser result on Lois Bram Sharon's account "One Elephant went out to play...", linking the account directly with RunedChozo, who as you all may remember was booted off the list for profanity and so forth. CU was run by a Steward and not recorded on-wiki.
It's reasonable to presume that this is Michael, and he's just trying to waste our time. I find this very dissapointing.
-- -george william herbert george.herbert@gmail.com
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On 3/17/07, Sharon, Lois Bram oneelephant@gmail.com wrote:
Sir,
that cannot possibly be correct.
I won't forward a private email, but the Steward's wording was "Both the first and second Elephant accounts shared an IP with RunedChozo".
That is IP singular.
Hm. As a rule, checkuser doesn't lie.
How about hopping back under the bridge?
Moreschi
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