In response to Ed's, Pakaran's, and Theresa's posts about Khranus, I would like to provide some more evidence of his behavior (in part part taken from the problem users page). This is not a comprehensive list, just some random examples (and perhaps not the most egregious ones, given the amount of his writing).
Khranus has added rantings that do not contribute anything useful to articles or dicussion and IMO qualify as exemplary cases of trolling: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Robert_Mugabe&diff=1717...
Khranus has expressed his contempt for Wikipedia as such, NPOV, and his fellow users, whom he likes tho call "larval humans": http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User:Khranus&oldid=1667796
Khranus has insulted users: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Someone_else&diff=...
and when asked to refrain from such behavior, has either replied in vague evasiveness or personal attacks: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Khranus&diff=16943... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Khranus&diff=16864...
Khranus likes to spam Wikipedia with conspiracy theories: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Ordo_Templi_Orientis&di... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Cold_fusion&oldid=17145...
Khranus has added massive amounts of information that I (and others) would characterise as total bogus: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Reptilian_humanoid&oldid=1685...
and when asked to discuss his claims: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1711... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1709... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1715...
he has replied with hostility and/or evasive blahblah: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1711... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1711... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1716...
and has not responded to further attempts at discussion: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1712...
To summarize, Khranus has given plenty of evidence, that, despite the pompous proclamations on his userpage, he does not understand Wikipedia, NPOV, Wikiquette, or even the most basic standards of civilised behavior, and that he is unwilling to accept advice. Another and final warning (perhaps from on high) might be in order, but given our experience with him I am not optimistic. It looks like talking to him is a complete waste of time.
Kosebamse
I'm listening to all of this. Could Khranus be invited to email me?
kosebamse@gmx.net wrote:
In response to Ed's, Pakaran's, and Theresa's posts about Khranus, I would like to provide some more evidence of his behavior (in part part taken from the problem users page). This is not a comprehensive list, just some random examples (and perhaps not the most egregious ones, given the amount of his writing).
Khranus has added rantings that do not contribute anything useful to articles or dicussion and IMO qualify as exemplary cases of trolling: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Robert_Mugabe&diff=1717...
Khranus has expressed his contempt for Wikipedia as such, NPOV, and his fellow users, whom he likes tho call "larval humans": http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User:Khranus&oldid=1667796
Khranus has insulted users: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Someone_else&diff=...
and when asked to refrain from such behavior, has either replied in vague evasiveness or personal attacks: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Khranus&diff=16943... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=User_talk:Khranus&diff=16864...
Khranus likes to spam Wikipedia with conspiracy theories: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Ordo_Templi_Orientis&di... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Cold_fusion&oldid=17145...
Khranus has added massive amounts of information that I (and others) would characterise as total bogus: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Reptilian_humanoid&oldid=1685...
and when asked to discuss his claims: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1711... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1709... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1715...
he has replied with hostility and/or evasive blahblah: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1711... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1711... http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1716...
and has not responded to further attempts at discussion: http://en2.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Talk:Dolphin_brain&diff=1712...
To summarize, Khranus has given plenty of evidence, that, despite the pompous proclamations on his userpage, he does not understand Wikipedia, NPOV, Wikiquette, or even the most basic standards of civilised behavior, and that he is unwilling to accept advice. Another and final warning (perhaps from on high) might be in order, but given our experience with him I am not optimistic. It looks like talking to him is a complete waste of time.
Kosebamse
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--On Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:33 AM -0800 Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com wrote:
I'm listening to all of this. Could Khranus be invited to email me?
I would leave a note on his talk page, but I'm emotionally involved at this point and a very new user myself.
Could someone else?
Wording could be along the lines of "Wikipedia project leader [[Jimbo Wales]] is in the process of evaluating concerns about you that have been raised on the [[Wikien-l|wikipedia:mailing lists]] list about your behavior on Wikipedia, and requests that you email him at jwales AT boomis PERIOD com."
I've leave the note myself, but again I'm emotionally involved, especially as one of (as I later discovered) two people to raise the issue on the list.
Pakaran
Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com wrote:
I'm listening to all of this. Could Khranus be invited to email me?
I'm pretty uninvolved in all this, not having run across Khranus personally in any articles I've edited, so am just passing along his response for those (Jimbo, perhaps) who don't follow all the talk pages and such. This is from [[User talk:Khranus]].
---snip--- In response to Kosebamse's complaint about "ramblings, contempt, insults, hostility", etc. -- the owner of this website [[user:Jimbo Wales]], asks that you contact him via e-mail.
See his letter about this matter [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2003-November/008376.html here]. --Uncle Ed 15:55, 12 Nov 2003 (UTC)
So now there's a wikipedia gestapo? I don't think I have to reply to any of this non-sense. If you have some sort of a problem with the memes I distribute, you can go ahead and distribute yours--but please, don't decrease the overall amount of information being transmitted. Khranus ---snip---
So I suppose he declines the invitation.
-Mark
--On Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:29 PM -0800 Delirium delirium@rufus.d2g.com wrote:
Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com wrote:
I'm listening to all of this. Could Khranus be invited to email me?
I'm pretty uninvolved in all this, not having run across Khranus personally in any articles I've edited, so am just passing along his response for those (Jimbo, perhaps) who don't follow all the talk pages and such. This is from [[User talk:Khranus]].
Looks like Jimbo just blocked him - check Jimbo's contribs. I'm going to mention this on problem users in a second.
Pakaran
--On Wednesday, November 12, 2003 5:39 PM -0500 Nathan Russell nrussell@buffalo.edu wrote:
--On Wednesday, November 12, 2003 2:29 PM -0800 Delirium delirium@rufus.d2g.com wrote:
Jimmy Wales jwales@bomis.com wrote:
I'm listening to all of this. Could Khranus be invited to email me?
I'm pretty uninvolved in all this, not having run across Khranus personally in any articles I've edited, so am just passing along his response for those (Jimbo, perhaps) who don't follow all the talk pages and such. This is from [[User talk:Khranus]].
Looks like Jimbo just blocked him - check Jimbo's contribs. I'm going to mention this on problem users in a second.
Never mind, looks like you beat me there.
Pakaran
I wouldn't say that he doesn't understand NPOV and Wikiquette. He has made it quite clear in several posts that he has no interest in it.
RickK
kosebamse@gmx.net wrote: To summarize, Khranus has given plenty of evidence, that, despite the pompous proclamations on his userpage, he does not understand Wikipedia, NPOV, Wikiquette, or even the most basic standards of civilised behavior, and that he is unwilling to accept advice. Another and final warning (perhaps from on high) might be in order, but given our experience with him I am not optimistic. It looks like talking to him is a complete waste of time.
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--On Wednesday, November 12, 2003 8:22 AM -0800 Rick giantsrick13@yahoo.com wrote:
I wouldn't say that he doesn't understand NPOV and Wikiquette. He has made it quite clear in several posts that he has no interest in it.
RickK
Or possibly he feels that his POV IS the NPOV, and anyone who disagrees is obviously unable to find the moral courage to challenge the conspiracy?
Pakaran