How should I respond to such inquiries?
I think we should have (and probably already do?) a page written in everyday language that says
"So, you want to use some of our content... here is what you need to do."
--Jimbo
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Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:08:43 +0100 To: jwales@bomis.com Subject: A photo on Wikipedia
Dear Sirs,
there is a photo shown on a Wikipedia website, which my friends would like to use in their publication:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:EDSA_Revolution_pic1.jpg
The photo is authored by a Joey de Vera.
Unfortunately basing on the information given on the website I am not able to trace Mr de Vera on the Internet.
You are kindly requested to tell me whom should we contact to get a necessary permission to use the photo in our publication?
At the moment I am writing unofficially on behalf of a small editors in Krakow, Poland. I am doing so only to get preliminary information on the subject. However, after having received it further negotiation would be taken over by competent officials from the edition.
Hoping to hear from you soon
..... ...... (Krakow, Poland)
My first impression was that this required an RTFM response, but when I look at the picture I realize that it's a fair use picture. The question isn't silly anymore. Although I'm on the end of the spectrum that supports using fair use material, I believe that the person who contributes fair use material still has a responsibility to cite his sources. That in turn depends on knowing what it means to cite sources. The contributor probably felt that mentioning Joey de Vera was enough, but I think he fell short. Citing a source means adding enough information to allow the downstream user with adequate resources to verify the facts and to exercise his own due dilligence. Our Polish user evidently wants to do this. The picture in question was taken in 1986 in the Philippines. A person who is skilled at searching the web may be able to track this down, but even for him that could be hours of work It is not the responsibility of the community as a whole to do one person's homework.
The contributor in this case, Seav, remains active on Philippine related topics; perhaps the problem should be put in his lap
Ec
Jimmy Wales wrote:
How should I respond to such inquiries?
I think we should have (and probably already do?) a page written in everyday language that says
"So, you want to use some of our content... here is what you need to do."
--Jimbo
----- Forwarded message from <> -----
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:08:43 +0100 To: jwales@bomis.com Subject: A photo on Wikipedia
Dear Sirs,
there is a photo shown on a Wikipedia website, which my friends would like to use in their publication:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:EDSA_Revolution_pic1.jpg
The photo is authored by a Joey de Vera.
Unfortunately basing on the information given on the website I am not able to trace Mr de Vera on the Internet.
You are kindly requested to tell me whom should we contact to get a necessary permission to use the photo in our publication?
At the moment I am writing unofficially on behalf of a small editors in Krakow, Poland. I am doing so only to get preliminary information on the subject. However, after having received it further negotiation would be taken over by competent officials from the edition.
Hoping to hear from you soon
It seems this publisher published some photography from Joey de Vera :
RLI Gallery Systems, Inc. 3/F GLORIETTA 4, Artspace Ayala Center, Makati City, Metro Manila Philippines Tel : (+632) 819 0631 Fax : (+632) 819 5769 E-mail : gallery@lietz.com
----- Original Message ----- From: "Ray Saintonge" saintonge@telus.net To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] [<>: A photo on Wikipedia]
My first impression was that this required an RTFM response, but when I look at the picture I realize that it's a fair use picture. The question isn't silly anymore. Although I'm on the end of the spectrum that supports using fair use material, I believe that the person who contributes fair use material still has a responsibility to cite his sources. That in turn depends on knowing what it means to cite sources. The contributor probably felt that mentioning Joey de Vera was enough, but I think he fell short. Citing a source means adding enough information to allow the downstream user with adequate resources to verify the facts and to exercise his own due dilligence. Our Polish user evidently wants to do this. The picture in question was taken in 1986 in the Philippines. A person who is skilled at searching the web may be able to track this down, but even for him that could be hours of work It is not the responsibility of the community as a whole to do one person's homework.
The contributor in this case, Seav, remains active on Philippine related topics; perhaps the problem should be put in his lap
Ec
Jimmy Wales wrote:
How should I respond to such inquiries?
I think we should have (and probably already do?) a page written in everyday language that says
"So, you want to use some of our content... here is what you need to do."
--Jimbo
----- Forwarded message from <> -----
Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2004 14:08:43 +0100 To: jwales@bomis.com Subject: A photo on Wikipedia
Dear Sirs,
there is a photo shown on a Wikipedia website, which my friends would like to use in their publication:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:EDSA_Revolution_pic1.jpg
The photo is authored by a Joey de Vera.
Unfortunately basing on the information given on the website I am not able to trace Mr de Vera on the Internet.
You are kindly requested to tell me whom should we contact to get a necessary permission to use the photo in our publication?
At the moment I am writing unofficially on behalf of a small editors in Krakow, Poland. I am doing so only to get preliminary information on the subject. However, after having received it further negotiation would be taken over by competent officials from the edition.
Hoping to hear from you soon
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