IP 129.186.80.133 popped onto Recent Changes. This IP is almost identical to the one Lir was using when he was banned (just swap-out the last digit for a 0 and there you have it). Clutch also removed some excessive linking from an article that this IP was working on and then Lir posted a message to Wikipedia-L asking for some linking criteria. This IP then asked Clutch about linking.
IMO this is an obvious attempt by Lir to subvert Jimbo's banning so I warned this IP on user:Clutch's page but then the person continued to edit. I therefore blocked the IP. If another sysop thinks this is in error then please unblock the IP and state your reasoning here.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
The below edit is a large one and pays for my last message and this one; http://www.wikipedia.org/w/wiki.phtml?title=Niobium&diff=0&oldid=442...
IP 129.186.80.133 popped onto Recent Changes. This IP is almost identical to the one Lir was using when he was banned (just swap-out the last digit for a 0 and there you have it). Clutch also removed some excessive linking from an article that this IP was working on and then Lir posted a message to Wikipedia-L asking for some linking criteria. This IP then asked Clutch about linking.
Don't trust Clutch. He keeps vandalizing the User:Lir page. Take a look at its history.
The User:Lir page should be protected (in the last revision edited by Lir) until Lir, if ever, is unbanned.
And no, vandalism is not too strong a word for what Clutch has been doing.
Regards,
Erik
On Mon, Nov 25, 2002 at 10:59:08AM +0100, Erik Moeller wrote:
IP 129.186.80.133 popped onto Recent Changes. This IP is almost identical to the one Lir was using when he was banned (just swap-out the last digit for a 0 and there you have it). Clutch also removed some excessive linking from an article that this IP was working on and then Lir posted a message to Wikipedia-L asking for some linking criteria. This IP then asked Clutch about linking.
Don't trust Clutch. He keeps vandalizing the User:Lir page. Take a look at its history.
I also encourage everyone to look at the history of the User:Lir page. I believe it will show the opposite; what was done to that page is not vandalism, but a service to the Wikipedia community. To quote the comment accompanying the last edit done to that page:
Lir used this page as a means of pissing others off. Leaving it intact to fulfill that function is a wrong application of Wikipedias rules about not editing others User pages
The User:Lir page should be protected (in the last revision edited by Lir) until Lir, if ever, is unbanned.
I agree with the reason quoted above, and so I request that the User:Lir NOT be protected, and I request that those who keep reverting the page to Lirs childish work stop doing so.
And no, vandalism is not too strong a word for what Clutch has been doing.
I and others agree that it is far too strong a word to describe Clutches efforts to work in good faith on the Wikipedia.
Jonathan
Jon,
I do not know if you are Clutch, and frankly, I do not care, although I note that you write these messages while simultaneously Clutch keeps vandalizing the page. That you defend such an obvious violation is also strange.
Please don't use Wikipedia or the mailing lists for personal flamewars. Wikipedia is not a playground.
Regards,
Erik
Daniel Mayer wrote:
IP 129.186.80.133 popped onto Recent Changes. This IP is almost identical to the one Lir was using when he was banned (just swap-out the last digit for a 0 and there you have it). Clutch also removed some excessive linking from an article that this IP was working on and then Lir posted a message to Wikipedia-L asking for some linking criteria. This IP then asked Clutch about linking.
IMO this is an obvious attempt by Lir to subvert Jimbo's banning so I warned this IP on user:Clutch's page but then the person continued to edit. I therefore blocked the IP. If another sysop thinks this is in error then please unblock the IP and state your reasoning here.
-- Daniel Mayer (aka mav)
There's also the registered user "Return of the Killer Lir http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Return_of_the_Killer_Lir", causing fuss about the Pi digits. I despair, I really do.
tarquin wrote:
There's also the registered user "Return of the Killer Lir http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Return_of_the_Killer_Lir", causing fuss about the Pi digits. I despair, I really do.
If this continues, then obviously the ban will be made permanent, and I will take whatever steps are necessary to pursue the issue at Lir's University.
--Jimbo