Does anyone know anything about this?
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=462
Presumably it's not the whole thing, but a production-ready subset.
- d.
On 8/18/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know anything about this?
No, but this caught my eye: "We might query the way in which entries are sorted, putting Hercules the TV character above Hercules the mythological figure, for example."
I wonder what that refers to? [[Hercules]] certainly isn't like that, and [[Hercules (disambiguation)]] technically puts the main article first (though it's hard to see compared to all the other links). Maybe that's some weird aspect of the Webaroo search mechanism?
Steve
On 8/18/06, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
On 8/18/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know anything about this?
No, but this caught my eye: "We might query the way in which entries are sorted, putting Hercules the TV character above Hercules the mythological figure, for example."
I wonder what that refers to? [[Hercules]] certainly isn't like that, and [[Hercules (disambiguation)]] technically puts the main article first (though it's hard to see compared to all the other links). Maybe that's some weird aspect of the Webaroo search mechanism?
Steve
Even wierder, we don't have an article about Hercules the TV character! Which is very strange, since we have articles on basically all characters to appear in popular fiction (just look at [[Will Hunting]] fer chrissakes). We do have an article on the TV show, but isn't sorted first either alphabetically or chronologically.
--Oskar
On 8/18/06, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
Even wierder, we don't have an article about Hercules the TV character! Which is very strange, since we have articles on basically all characters to appear in popular fiction (just look at [[Will Hunting]] fer chrissakes). We do have an article on the TV show, but isn't sorted first either alphabetically or chronologically.
We have a couple of weird instances where characters are blended with the show/book about them. See [[Asterix]] for a good example - the article is mostly about the series (despite the dablink "This article is about the comic book character"), and has very little about him - less than the content of [[Obelix]], for instance.
It probably comes down to editors blurring the two concepts in their minds. Or maybe sometimes the concepts are blurry - what *would* you write about Hercules the TV character? Mostly you would want to describe the relationship between him and the "real" Hercules, but you might as well describe the faithfulness of the whole Hercules TV show to the whole Hercules legend. Dunno.
Steve
Steve Bennett wrote:
On 8/18/06, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
Even wierder, we don't have an article about Hercules the TV character! Which is very strange, since we have articles on basically all characters to appear in popular fiction (just look at [[Will Hunting]] fer chrissakes). We do have an article on the TV show, but isn't sorted first either alphabetically or chronologically.
We have a couple of weird instances where characters are blended with the show/book about them. See [[Asterix]] for a good example - the article is mostly about the series (despite the dablink "This article is about the comic book character"), and has very little about him - less than the content of [[Obelix]], for instance.
It probably comes down to editors blurring the two concepts in their minds. Or maybe sometimes the concepts are blurry - what *would* you write about Hercules the TV character? Mostly you would want to describe the relationship between him and the "real" Hercules, but you might as well describe the faithfulness of the whole Hercules TV show to the whole Hercules legend. Dunno.
A good example of where it's appropriate to split a TV show from the title character is [[Doctor (Doctor Who)]] vs. [[Doctor Who]]. Something like Hercules just doesn't have the material to split the character from the show.
On 8/19/06, Alphax (Wikipedia email) alphasigmax@gmail.com wrote:
Steve Bennett wrote:
On 8/18/06, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
Even wierder, we don't have an article about Hercules the TV character! Which is very strange, since we have articles on basically all characters to appear in popular fiction (just look at [[Will Hunting]] fer chrissakes). We do have an article on the TV show, but isn't sorted first either alphabetically or chronologically.
We have a couple of weird instances where characters are blended with the show/book about them. See [[Asterix]] for a good example - the article is mostly about the series (despite the dablink "This article is about the comic book character"), and has very little about him - less than the content of [[Obelix]], for instance.
It probably comes down to editors blurring the two concepts in their minds. Or maybe sometimes the concepts are blurry - what *would* you write about Hercules the TV character? Mostly you would want to describe the relationship between him and the "real" Hercules, but you might as well describe the faithfulness of the whole Hercules TV show to the whole Hercules legend. Dunno.
A good example of where it's appropriate to split a TV show from the title character is [[Doctor (Doctor Who)]] vs. [[Doctor Who]]. Something like Hercules just doesn't have the material to split the character from the show.
I don't think so, both [[Xena]] and [[Gabrielle (Xena)]] have their own articles, both pretty decent (if crufty). I haven't seen more than a couple of episodes of Xena and Hercules, but Herc-man should be able to pull off a couple of paragraphs, right? To take another example (from a show I have watched, religiously, and several times), [[Buffy Summers]], [[Xander Harris]], [[Willow Rosenberg]], and, my personal favourite, [[Tara Maclay]] all have their own articles (throw any accusations at me, I'm proud of my Buffy obsession!). Going by that precedent, surely My Man Hercfrey could have an article?
--Oskar
On 8/19/06, Oskar Sigvardsson oskarsigvardsson@gmail.com wrote:
I don't think so, both [[Xena]] and [[Gabrielle (Xena)]] have their own articles, both pretty decent (if crufty). I haven't seen more than a couple of episodes of Xena and Hercules, but Herc-man should be able to pull off a couple of paragraphs, right? To take another example (from a show I have watched, religiously, and several times), [[Buffy Summers]], [[Xander Harris]], [[Willow Rosenberg]], and, my personal favourite, [[Tara Maclay]] all have their own articles (throw any accusations at me, I'm proud of my Buffy obsession!). Going by that precedent, surely My Man Hercfrey could have an article?
Yes, for me it's safe to say that once there is a single article about another character in the show, there should be a separate article about the title character. Given that the title character is guaranteed to be in episode, and probably almost every scene, there ought to be plenty to write about. Let's do a random survey:
[[Get Smart]] ([[Maxwell Smart]] is a redirect, although [[Agent 99]] exists) [[Bilbo Baggins]] has his own article separate from [[The Hobbit]] [[Inspector Gadget]] (no separate article, although [[Brain (Inspector Gadget)]] exists Jerry Seinfeld is a very special case: We have [[Seinfeld]], [[Jerry Seinfeld (character)]] and [[Jerry Seinfeld]].
Drawing a bit of a blank for other examples...
Steve
David Gerard wrote:
Does anyone know anything about this?
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=462
Presumably it's not the whole thing, but a production-ready subset.
- d.
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The publisher gave a lightning talk about it at Wikimania and left some CDs of demo in the press room as well. I could not give it a look as it is not a mac-friendly product.
Ant
David,
Ann Burgraff of Webaroo was at Wikimania 2006 in Boston, and she gave a very quick Lightning Talk about Webaroo and handed out DVDs of their product. Windows only unfortunately, but pretty neat.
-Andrew (User:Fuzheado)
On 8/18/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know anything about this?
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/index.cfm?reviewid=462Presumably it's not the whole thing, but a production-ready subset.
- d.
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On 19/08/06, Andrew Lih andrew.lih@gmail.com wrote:
Ann Burgraff of Webaroo was at Wikimania 2006 in Boston, and she gave a very quick Lightning Talk about Webaroo and handed out DVDs of their product. Windows only unfortunately, but pretty neat.
So is it most/all of en:? Some of en:?
- d.