I recently sent an unblock request to Tiptoety, asking him to post it on the Admins' Noticeboard, as he said he would on IRC. Durova made a comment on it, and then she wrote a long-winded addendum to it that I really didn't get the point of, and am unsure of how to respond to. It seems to me that she wasn't accusing me of anything, as I could make out no clear accusation, but why did she write all of that? For nothing? I don't think that she was accusing me of being JB196, because if she read the long term abuse page on him, she would see that his real name is Jonathan Barber, and that he is a wrestling commentator who promotes himself. Then again, she's accused me of not being as young as I say I am, and she may think that I am a made-up person. A Yahoo! search on my name can disprove this. Any connection between me and JB196 is purely coincidental. I have never even communicated with Alkivar and Eyrian (who have been accused of editing for JB196), let alone JB196, and I surely didn't "proxy" for him.
I don't know what to say in response to her speech, except that I cannot understand a word of it.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_notice...
Jonas Rand
"Developments in the Alkivar case also precipitated [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eyrian]], which arbitrators began voting to accept two hours before Jonas created his sock account, in which a second administrator was not only desysopped but also sitebanned for disruptive socking."
She lost me about there. It looks to me like she believes in meat puppets. Maybe that sentence is a dangling participle of some kind. An administrator was desysopped and sitebanned (got a service provider blocked), because Jonas created a puppet...not too likely. Then she talks about Eyrian, and I can't tell if or how she knows that Eyrian and Jonas are the same.
In a previous message, she seems to be claiming that Saboto215 is also a sock puppet. I'm lost, because I don't know how to do checkuser queries with e-mail, and the contributions she pointed at tell me nearly nothing.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Rand" joeyyuan@cox.net To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: [WikiEN-l] What exactly is Durova saying here?
I recently sent an unblock request to Tiptoety, asking him to post it on the Admins' Noticeboard, as he said he would on IRC. Durova made a comment on it, and then she wrote a long-winded addendum to it that I really didn't get the point of, and am unsure of how to respond to. It seems to me that she wasn't accusing me of anything, as I could make out no clear accusation, but why did she write all of that? For nothing? I don't think that she was accusing me of being JB196, because if she read the long term abuse page on him, she would see that his real name is Jonathan Barber, and that he is a wrestling commentator who promotes himself. Then again, she's accused me of not being as young as I say I am, and she may think that I am a made-up person. A Yahoo! search on my name can disprove this. Any connection between me and JB196 is purely coincidental. I have never even communicated with Alkivar and Eyrian (who have been accused of editing for JB196), let alone JB196, and I surely didn't "proxy" for him.
I don't know what to say in response to her speech, except that I cannot understand a word of it.
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_notice...
Jonas Rand
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Rofl, Eyrian and Jonas the same? Admins desysopped because of Jonas? Thank you very much for the chuckle.
Meatpuppets aren't mythical figments of the imagination--not unless the Committee shared the same delusion when it sitebanned several. You could (cough) read the two arbitration cases. Or ask.
It's also kinda odd to read ''she seems to be claiming that Saboto215 is also a sock puppet.'' Heck, I didn't refer to that account by name. It was Ryan Postlethwaite who indeffed it and added it to the Jonas sockpuppet category. Go ask Ryan.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Saboto215
Brewhaha, I hope you were deep into a six pack when you wrote that post. And I hope it was porter or stout. Lager is for wimps.
-Durova
On Sun, Nov 29, 2009 at 7:03 AM, Jay Litwyn brewhaha@edmc.net wrote:
"Developments in the Alkivar case also precipitated [[Wikipedia:Requests for arbitration/Eyrian]], which arbitrators began voting to accept two hours before Jonas created his sock account, in which a second administrator was not only desysopped but also sitebanned for disruptive socking."
She lost me about there. It looks to me like she believes in meat puppets. Maybe that sentence is a dangling participle of some kind. An administrator was desysopped and sitebanned (got a service provider blocked), because Jonas created a puppet...not too likely. Then she talks about Eyrian, and I can't tell if or how she knows that Eyrian and Jonas are the same.
In a previous message, she seems to be claiming that Saboto215 is also a sock puppet. I'm lost, because I don't know how to do checkuser queries with e-mail, and the contributions she pointed at tell me nearly nothing.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Jonas Rand" joeyyuan@cox.net To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 2:05 PM Subject: [WikiEN-l] What exactly is Durova saying here?
I recently sent an unblock request to Tiptoety, asking him to post it on the Admins' Noticeboard, as he said he would on IRC. Durova made a comment on it, and then she wrote a long-winded addendum to it that I really didn't get the point of, and am unsure of how to respond to. It seems to me that she wasn't accusing me of anything, as I could make out no clear accusation, but why did she write all of that? For nothing? I don't think that she was accusing me of being JB196, because if she read the long term abuse page on him, she would see that his real name is Jonathan Barber, and that he is
a
wrestling commentator who promotes himself. Then again, she's accused me of not being as young as I say I am, and she may think that I am a made-up person. A Yahoo! search on my name can disprove this. Any connection between me and JB196 is purely coincidental. I have never even communicated with Alkivar and Eyrian (who have been accused of editing for JB196), let
alone
JB196, and I surely didn't "proxy" for him.
I don't know what to say in response to her speech, except that I cannot understand a word of it.
Link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_notice...
Jonas Rand
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On 11/30/08, Durova nadezhda.durova@gmail.com wrote:
Brewhaha, I hope you were deep into a six pack when you wrote that post. And I hope it was porter or stout. Lager is for wimps.
Would that not leave him a couple cans short...
—C.W.
Exactly six cans...short of a half sack on a Sunday night. What's your excuse?
----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Webb" charlottethewebb@gmail.com To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Sent: Sunday, November 30, 2008 11:37 AM Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] What exactly is Durova saying here?
On 11/30/08, Durova nadezhda.durova@gmail.com wrote:
Brewhaha, I hope you were deep into a six pack when you wrote that post. And I hope it was porter or stout. Lager is for wimps.
Would that not leave him a couple cans short...
—C.W.
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