On Thu, 2003-03-20 at 09:27, Poor, Edmund W wrote:

I like Axelboldt's idea of avoiding double quotes, and I guess there's no need for the colon if there are single quotes, so I'll change the article titles as suggested.

Sorry to Cunctator if he'd like the word "slogan" at the end of the title, > but I think it would be less of a shock to Google surfers to put the "slogan" tag at the front. This will be especially useful for long, multi-word slogans such as:

[[Slogan 'The rich get richer, and the poor get poorer']]

Sorry to Ed, but he doesn't have any more authority than I do.

If he's going to change article titles around to what he thinks is right, without discussing the issues behind them, so will I.

We should take a reality check and look at our standard naming policy. We don't have [['A Tale of Two Cities' book]] or [[book 'A Tale of Two Cities']], we have [[A Tale of Two Cities]]. We don't have [['Yesterday' song]] or [[song 'Yesterday']] we have [[Yesterday]].

In the case where disambiguation is necessary, we don't have [[song 'American Pie']] and [[movie 'American Pie']] we have [[American Pie (song)]] and [[American Pie (movie)]].

So, what does this mean?

The default naming of the slogans should be [[Power to the People]], etc.

Now, what about the offensiveness? We don't tag or otherwise change entry names for entries like [[fuck]] or [[fag]]. When the [[fuck]] entry was first written, there were shouts of outrage and demands for censorship and other cries of doom and acts of civil disobedience (remember what you did, Ed?).

Time has passed, the topless towers of Wikipedia have not been toppled, and they're good entries.

AKFD has similarly elicited cries of outrage. I'm sympathetic enough to the cries to think that it's not unreasonable to disambiguate the entry (though hardly enough to delete it). But if we do so, then we should do so in conformance to the standard Wikipedia naming policy; that is, [[AIDS Kills Fags Dead (slogan)]].

So, to recap, here's what I think: 1. The default naming for slogan entries should of the form [[Power to the People]] 2. For egregiously offensive slogans the entry may be changed to the form [[AIDS Kills Fags Dead (slogan)]]