Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 01:05:55 +0100 From: "Thomas Dalton" thomas.dalton@gmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Ryulong To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Message-ID: a4359dff0809251705r3c65a564g138e3f4c7ad9fd2e@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
2008/9/26 Jonas Rand joeyyuan@cox.net:
Ryulong, real name Michael, has stalked me. He has obviously ben searching for my real name. I made some comments on Wikiversity under an IP address not in my known range, signed my real name. These posts had no link whatsoever to a userpage on another wiki. The only way Ryulong could have found those posts, connected it, found my IP address, and blocked it on enwiki, is doing searches on my real name, either for the express purpose of looking for new IP addresses, or (more likely) some strange stalker hunt. It would be awkward for someone to search for the real name of a person to find sockpuppets or IPs, unless he knows I've moved since I had IPs in the 68.224.0.0/17 range, in which case he's still on a stalkerish hunt for me.
This is not the place for such complaints. Try the Administrators Noticeboard in the first instance.
You must not know who I am, about my ban, and how many ways and times I have been told "Fuck you" by higher-up Wikipedians.
My name is Jonas Rand, and I live in Nevada. I was banned a long time ago, and the ban still stayed.
I became a member of Wikipedia Review shortly after I stopped vandalising and began editing regularly. I posted on there some comments critical of Wikipedia, not really in a mature fashion. I also found out about things there, such as Ryulong's RFC. When I looked at the abusive blocks he had made (he apologised, but continues to be rude nowadays), I decided to comment on it, requesting that he be desysopped. I still maintain that he should be desysopped, however the way I phrased the comment and the reasons that I thought he should have been desysopped for (to see how it feels) made people think I was trolling. I was new in the field of Wikidrama. So I was blocked for a week. After I sockpuppeteered during that block, when I was let back in, I tried to remove the sockpuppeteer template, as it was unseemly and I thought it made me look like I was blocked. So I called Ryulong names. I harassed him, and he was rude to me. Then, Josh Gordon came in and threatened me with a 1-month block, not seeing that his friend Ryulong was not willing to negotiate with me. I realised his threat was serious, the hard way.
I created more and more sockpuppets over more and more bans, eventually leading to an indefinite block by someone who obviously meatpuppets for Slimvirgin, Crum375. It was for harassing SV with a sockpuppet.
I don't believe the ban is unfair, I think that it shouldn't be permanent. There is also no reason to harass me by being so obsessed with me as to do google searches for my real name to check for sockpuppets.
Of course, I won't be going through the trouble to find an unblocked open web proxy, create a sockpuppet, post to the AN, and get reverted as a troll by Luna Santin ;).
To Josh, because I know you read this list, I'm sorry for the abusive e-mails and disruption, I've realised my mistake, but you must realise as well that Ryulong wasn't acting very nice, either. I hope this can be resolved.
Jonas Rand User:Ionas68224
This is not the place for such complaints. Try the Administrators Noticeboard in the first instance.
You must not know who I am, about my ban, and how many ways and times I have been told "Fuck you" by higher-up Wikipedians.
I don't care who you are - this list still isn't the right place for such complaints. If you are banned and can't post to the Admin noticeboard, try either unblock templates on your talk page or emailing ArbCom.
What you describe is an administrator investigating a ban-evading sockmaster, discovering instances of further ban-evasion, and properly blocking to enforce the ban. Given your history as you describe it, I doubt you will ever be allowed to return to editing. If you wish to, Thomas is correct - this is the wrong forum.
Nathan
2008/9/26 Nathan nawrich@gmail.com:
What you describe is an administrator investigating a ban-evading sockmaster, discovering instances of further ban-evasion, and properly blocking to enforce the ban. Given your history as you describe it, I doubt you will ever be allowed to return to editing.
It's possible - we've welcomed back worse who've then behaved themselves - but the attitude expressed makes it unlikely IMO. (I speak only as an observer, of course - my estimation is not in any way binding.)
- d.