Sending again, sent from the wrong address before:
OK, I've been going through the gory details over at List of French monarchs and Clovis I (the talk pages). It seems to me that whatever the case may be, Triton is being deliberately confrontational... and not in a good way. He is consistently abusive and uses language that I believe is designed to worsen, not better, the situation. A few choice examples:
We now have someone calling themselves Slrubenstein reverting my facts. Why is this vandalism going on?
To the User logged in calling himself Tannin - refrain from accusations unless you have proof.
And by the way, Ms. Kemp, don't even infer plagiarism, you are far from qualified in law
Don't you think it a bit childish, besides dishonest, to insert "Belgium" after deleting Toxandria. Or did you not study any of this but decided to hide it from others?
Act like an adult, behave like the professional you claim to be, and please correct your improper deletions. And, I will indeed ask Jimbo Wales to look at your deletions, assertions and derogatory remarks about other erstwhile contributors to his website
you have deleted facts straight from the James book which you obviously never read. I shall reverse your attempts to distort and cover up.
As an aside, Ms. Kemp intimidated some of these people who either now say nothing or have left.
***** In my opinion, this is not the language of a person who is seriously engaged in a scholarly dispute in an attempt to arrive at factual conclusions. It has been my experience that ad hominem attacks are typically made by people who do not have a logical or reasonable argument to make. I suggest that someone please look into this matter seriously.
Please note that I know very little about French monarchy, I'm dealing here with what I see as an abusive user, whether or not his idea(s) about French monarchy are valid.
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Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of great moral crisis." -Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321
Dante-
In my opinion, this is not the language of a person who is seriously engaged in a scholarly dispute in an attempt to arrive at factual conclusions.
This is true, Triton is unnecessarily confrontational. But then, so were many others in the discussion so far. I'm sure things will cool down in the next few days.
I haven't seen substantial evidence that Triton is DW yet. I find it problematic to guess identities based on edit styles. I have asked Triton to put some info about himself on his user page. We really have to stop being so suspicious *in public* until reasonable proof has been reached. Remember that talk pages are still public (yes, I know, I've speculated myself in public occasionally; that's why I say "we").
Regards,
Erik
On 28 May 2003, Erik Moeller wrote:
Date: 28 May 2003 06:19:00 +0200 From: Erik Moeller erik_moeller@gmx.de Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] French monarchs and other unsavory characters
This is true, Triton is unnecessarily confrontational. But then, so were many others in the discussion so far. I'm sure things will cool down in the next few days.
I haven't seen substantial evidence that Triton is DW yet. I find it problematic to guess identities based on edit styles. I have asked Triton to put some info about himself on his user page. We really have to stop being so suspicious *in public* until reasonable proof has been reached. Remember that talk pages are still public (yes, I know, I've speculated myself in public occasionally; that's why I say "we").
Also remember that mailing lists are still public too, as Triton has already demonstrated.
P.S. Why do I feel this urge to put four tildes at the end of that?