JimboWales said:
Since WP:OFFICE is done publicly and under intense scrutiny from the community and the external world, I hardly see any need for a special narrow committee to be specifically tasked with overseeing it.
It seems that this was not true in this particular case. Danny did not add the WP:OFFICE tag. There was every indication that it was not an office action. If it was a WP:OFFICE action, why did Danny not tag it as such?
What should people do when they see a WP:OFFICE action? Treat it as a call for attention from the absolute best within ourselves, the absolute best within our community.
That makes perfect sense but again there was originally no indication this was a WP:OFFICE action. So, the question I think many of us want answered is, "What should people do when they see something appears to NOT be an office action"?
Johntex
On 4/22/06, John Tex johntexster@gmail.com wrote:
JimboWales said:
Since WP:OFFICE is done publicly and under intense scrutiny from the community and the external world, I hardly see any need for a special narrow committee to be specifically tasked with overseeing it.
It seems that this was not true in this particular case. Danny did not add the WP:OFFICE tag. There was every indication that it was not an office action. If it was a WP:OFFICE action, why did Danny not tag it as such?
What should people do when they see a WP:OFFICE action? Treat it as a call for attention from the absolute best within ourselves, the absolute best within our community.
That makes perfect sense but again there was originally no indication this was a WP:OFFICE action. So, the question I think many of us want answered is, "What should people do when they see something appears to NOT be an office action"?
Johntex
Combining this with the discussion of defamation, and Wikitruth, maybe there is a simple solution. Give Danny and other agents of Wikimedia special powers which can't be overridden by admins. Let them protect pages in a way that they can't be unprotected by admins, and let them delete defamatory information, copyright violations, and other legally problematic material, permanently, in a way that the information can't even be read by admins.
Any idea how hard it would be to implement such a thing, Brion?
Anthony
Anthony DiPierro wrote:
Combining this with the discussion of defamation, and Wikitruth, maybe there is a simple solution. Give Danny and other agents of Wikimedia special powers which can't be overridden by admins. Let them protect pages in a way that they can't be unprotected by admins, and let them delete defamatory information, copyright violations, and other legally problematic material, permanently, in a way that the information can't even be read by admins.
In cases where it's necessary to remove information this way, the case is forwarded to me and I trim the revisions manually. Either it's *extremely* rare or Danny isn't telling me about such things.
A wiki-accessible version of this is partly implemented but incomplete (currently it doesn't mix properly with regular page deletion.)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
John Tex wrote:
That makes perfect sense but again there was originally no indication this was a WP:OFFICE action. So, the question I think many of us want answered is, "What should people do when they see something appears to NOT be an office action"?
Assume good faith. It could be a mistake, it could be a poor decision, it could be a very strange emergency having to do with a suicide attempt (this case wasn't but my point is, we do sometimes get those on the wiki and have to do our best to try to be helpful), it could be...
In general, there is plenty of time to stop and ask questions.
On 4/24/06, Jimmy Wales jwales@wikia.com wrote:
John Tex wrote:
That makes perfect sense but again there was originally no indication this was a WP:OFFICE action. So, the question I think many of us want answered is, "What should people do when they see something appears to NOT be an office action"?
Assume good faith. It could be a mistake, it could be a poor decision, it could be a very strange emergency having to do with a suicide attempt (this case wasn't but my point is, we do sometimes get those on the wiki and have to do our best to try to be helpful), it could be...
In general, there is plenty of time to stop and ask questions.
Speaking of asking questions... What was it?
Anthony