http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hotel_Wikipedia#Is_this_a_copyright_viol... Essentially it's a parody of a copyrighted song, and thus fair use. If this were on one of the Wikipedias, it would not be allowed, since it's not in article space. Does this also apply to Meta?
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SPUI just had to cough out the following stream of bytes from the specified email client, on 4/30/2007 10:25 PM:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hotel_Wikipedia#Is_this_a_copyright_viol... Essentially it's a parody of a copyrighted song, and thus fair use. If this were on one of the Wikipedias, it would not be allowed, since it's not in article space. Does this also apply to Meta?
Probably, but Meta is not Wikipedia.
- -- Charli (vishwin60)
On 4/30/07, Charli Li chengli1@verizon.net wrote:
SPUI just had to cough out the following stream of bytes from the specified email client, on 4/30/2007 10:25 PM:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hotel_Wikipedia#Is_this_a_copyright_viol... Essentially it's a parody of a copyrighted song, and thus fair use. If this were on one of the Wikipedias, it would not be allowed, since it's not in article space. Does this also apply to Meta?
Probably, but Meta is not Wikipedia.
Oh, ah. Hmm.
Parody is not a copyright violation in the US. In a sense it's derived work, but there's a specific statutory exception for it. My understanding of precedents here is that as long as nobody complains, or as long as you can convince a judge that it was parody, for copyright purposes it's a new work. Weird Al for example does have his own copyrights on his parody songs.
As long as it's treated as a new work elsewhere, by law and precedent, I don't see that Wikipedia has any reason to treat it as anything but so here.
George Herbert wrote:
On 4/30/07, Charli Li chengli1@verizon.net wrote:
SPUI just had to cough out the following stream of bytes from the specified email client, on 4/30/2007 10:25 PM:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hotel_Wikipedia#Is_this_a_copyright_viol... Essentially it's a parody of a copyrighted song, and thus fair use. If this were on one of the Wikipedias, it would not be allowed, since it's not in article space. Does this also apply to Meta?
Probably, but Meta is not Wikipedia.
Oh, ah. Hmm.
Parody is not a copyright violation in the US. In a sense it's derived work, but there's a specific statutory exception for it. My understanding of precedents here is that as long as nobody complains, or as long as you can convince a judge that it was parody, for copyright purposes it's a new work. Weird Al for example does have his own copyrights on his parody songs.
As long as it's treated as a new work elsewhere, by law and precedent, I don't see that Wikipedia has any reason to treat it as anything but so here.
Parody is protected by the fair use clause: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parody#Copyright_issues
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hotel_Wikipedia#Is_this_a_copyright_viol... Essentially it's a parody of a copyrighted song, and thus fair use. If this were on one of the Wikipedias, it would not be allowed, since it's not in article space. Does this also apply to Meta?
Legally, it's almost certainly ok. What is allowed on Meta is only a subset of what is allowed by law, however, so I don't know if there are any Meta policies which forbid it.
On 4/30/07, SPUI drspui@gmail.com wrote:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hotel_Wikipedia#Is_this_a_copyright_viol... Essentially it's a parody of a copyrighted song, and thus fair use. If this were on one of the Wikipedias, it would not be allowed, since it's not in article space. Does this also apply to Meta?
What about this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Song/We_didn%27t_start_the_fire_%28Ro...
-C.W.
On 4/30/07, SPUI drspui@gmail.com wrote:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Hotel_Wikipedia#Is_this_a_copyright_viol... Essentially it's a parody of a copyrighted song, and thus fair use. If this were on one of the Wikipedias, it would not be allowed, since it's not in article space. Does this also apply to Meta?
Or what about this collection of contemporary lyrics and poetry, in userspace:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/User:Phaedriel/Today/
Charlotte Webb wrote:
Or what about this collection of contemporary lyrics and poetry, in userspace:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Prefixindex/User:Phaedriel/Today/
Welcome to our bizarre fair use policy, where if Phaedriel were to put a picture of her favorite band from Rolling Stone on her userpage, she'd catch holy hell, but no one has a problem with lyrics or quotes.
Have I ever mentioned how retarded our positions on fair use are?
-Jeff