On 5/25/07, Sean Barrett sean@epoptic.com wrote:
I seem to recall a page of requested images but I can't recall where. Can someone point it out to me?
More specifically, if your favorite hypothetical person were about to be punished by cruel fate with spending the week of 18-25 June at [[le Bourget airport]], is there anything in particular would you want him to try to photograph?
-- Sean Barrett | If we can't say "fuck," how can we say sean@epoptic.com | "fuck the government"? --George Carlin
Photograph native plants with their names at botanical gardens--close up of flower, of leaf, of branch, portrait of entire plant. Post on Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Tree of Life or my talk page (User talk:KP Botany).
Take this as a standing request for all list members.
And, please, more than anything, anyone who happens to go anywhere near New Caledonia or know anyone who knows anyone whose third cousin thrice removed married the daughter of someone who's uncle's sister moved to New Caledonia, please please please get a picture of *Amborella*! It's beautiful leaves would be fine, a plant in its native environment would be stunning, but only if without causing environmental damage. Flowers would be to dream the impossible dream, you don't even have to know if they're male or female. Just please get the picture of *Amborella trichopoda*.
KP
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
More specifically, if your favorite hypothetical person were about to be punished by cruel fate with spending the week of 18-25 June at [[le Bourget airport]], is there anything in particular would you want him to try to photograph?
What in god's name did you do to deserve the punishment of spending a week at an airport?
Steve
Steve Bennett stated for the record:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
More specifically, if your favorite hypothetical person were about to be punished by cruel fate with spending the week of 18-25 June at [[le Bourget airport]], is there anything in particular would you want him to try to photograph?
What in god's name did you do to deserve the punishment of spending a week at an airport?
Steve
I've gotten the idea that something is supposed to happen there that week.
On 29/05/07, Steve Bennett stevagewp@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
More specifically, if your favorite hypothetical person were about to be punished by cruel fate with spending the week of 18-25 June at [[le Bourget airport]], is there anything in particular would you want him to try to photograph?
What in god's name did you do to deserve the punishment of spending a week at an airport?
The [[Paris Air Show]], one assumes...
Steve Bennett wrote:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
More specifically, if your favorite hypothetical person were about to be punished by cruel fate with spending the week of 18-25 June at [[le Bourget airport]], is there anything in particular would you want him to try to photograph?
What in god's name did you do to deserve the punishment of spending a week at an airport?
Somebody who's spending a week hanging around at an airport taking pictures may end up being asked to prove that he's not casing the joint in preparation for some kind of terrorist plot. :-)
Ec
On 29/05/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Somebody who's spending a week hanging around at an airport taking pictures may end up being asked to prove that he's not casing the joint in preparation for some kind of terrorist plot. :-)
"Don't worry, sir. I'm from Wikipedia. Everything I do here is neutral. If I can proceed without interference, we won't be writing an article on *you*."
- d.
David Gerard stated for the record:
On 29/05/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Somebody who's spending a week hanging around at an airport taking pictures may end up being asked to prove that he's not casing the joint in preparation for some kind of terrorist plot. :-)
"Don't worry, sir. I'm from Wikipedia. Everything I do here is neutral. If I can proceed without interference, we won't be writing an article on *you*."
- d.
I like it! But I expect I won't be the only terro-- er, baby-kill-- that is, um, well, the point is that the amount of military hardware lying around that airport that week will be greater than many nations' entire arsenals. There will literally be hundreds of thousands of people taking pictures.
But, I suspect, not all of them will be willing to contribute their photos to Wikipedia.
On 5/29/07, Sean Barrett sean@epoptic.com wrote:
I like it! But I expect I won't be the only terro-- er, baby-kill-- that is, um, well, the point is that the amount of military hardware lying around that airport that week will be greater than many nations' entire arsenals. There will literally be hundreds of thousands of people taking pictures.
But, I suspect, not all of them will be willing to contribute their photos to Wikipedia.
We are pretty well covered when it comes to US military kit. See anything belonging to anyone else try and grab a pic.
On 5/29/07, Sean Barrett sean@epoptic.com wrote:
David Gerard stated for the record:
On 29/05/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Somebody who's spending a week hanging around at an airport taking pictures may end up being asked to prove that he's not casing the joint in preparation for some kind of terrorist plot. :-)
"Don't worry, sir. I'm from Wikipedia. Everything I do here is neutral. If I can proceed without interference, we won't be writing an article on *you*."
- d.
I like it! But I expect I won't be the only terro-- er, baby-kill-- that is, um, well, the point is that the amount of military hardware lying around that airport that week will be greater than many nations' entire arsenals. There will literally be hundreds of thousands of people taking pictures.
But, I suspect, not all of them will be willing to contribute their photos to Wikipedia.
-- Sean Barrett | Nov shmoz ka pop? sean@epoptic.com |
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each other--took some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the display tags alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
KP
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each other--took some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the display tags alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try for a square-on front view, a square-on side view, a front corner view, and close-ups of any significant markings (tail number, nose art, and anything else that looks interesting).
On 5/31/07, Mark Wagner carnildo@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each other--took some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the display tags alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try for a square-on front view, a square-on side view, a front corner view, and close-ups of any significant markings (tail number, nose art, and anything else that looks interesting).
Don't worry too much about ID, for that stuff; anyone who reads AvWeek will be able to ID the photos on sight.
On 31/05/07, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/31/07, Mark Wagner carnildo@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each other--took some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the display tags alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try for a square-on front view, a square-on side view, a front corner view, and close-ups of any significant markings (tail number, nose art, and anything else that looks interesting).
Don't worry too much about ID, for that stuff; anyone who reads AvWeek will be able to ID the photos on sight.
Indeed. And if there's a tail number in frame, we can get pretty much all the necessary specific metadata off that as well :-)
On 5/31/07, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
On 31/05/07, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/31/07, Mark Wagner carnildo@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each other--took some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the display tags alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try for a square-on front view, a square-on side view, a front corner view, and close-ups of any significant markings (tail number, nose art, and anything else that looks interesting).
Don't worry too much about ID, for that stuff; anyone who reads AvWeek will be able to ID the photos on sight.
Indeed. And if there's a tail number in frame, we can get pretty much all the necessary specific metadata off that as well :-)
If only we could get them to barcode the aircraft, as well as all the parts...
On 5/31/07, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
On 31/05/07, George Herbert george.herbert@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/31/07, Mark Wagner carnildo@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each
other--took
some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the
display tags
alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try for a square-on front view, a square-on side view, a front corner view, and close-ups of any significant markings (tail number, nose art, and anything else that looks interesting).
Don't worry too much about ID, for that stuff; anyone who reads AvWeek will be able to ID the photos on sight.
Indeed. And if there's a tail number in frame, we can get pretty much all the necessary specific metadata off that as well :-)
--
- Andrew Gray
andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
Yeah, there are millions of folks who can identify things later. Except that it's much easier to do it up front.
I take photos of specimens I've planted, and always put an id frame in. I work with people who are better at id'ing my plants than I am, but still I get mine done faster than they get their done, because I don't have to look for ids, I don't have to think, I don't have to find one of the million readers of AV week who can do, I don't have to post it and ask anyone. I don't have to do anything about the identification, because it is all right there on my camera.
It's a freebie. Do as you like, but sometimes it's nice not to have to think or seek, especially when the information is right there at hand just for the clicking. Even when I'm not dealing with 16,000 images at a pop, it's easier.
KP
On 31/05/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, there are millions of folks who can identify things later. Except that it's much easier to do it up front.
The other problem is that, with aircraft, the notice saying what it is is usually a long way away from the good point for an overall picture, which is a little less true for flowers :-)
It's a freebie. Do as you like, but sometimes it's nice not to have to think or seek, especially when the information is right there at hand just for the clicking. Even when I'm not dealing with 16,000 images at a pop, it's easier.
I did an entire museum a little while ago - the trick I used was to do two seperate sets of photos, the good camera taking high-res shots of every artifact and the small compact running off lots of context photos ("here is the entire cabinet") and pictures of labels, etc. Put the two sets together, sort by timestamp, and you're done.
[Or would be had I not forgotten to set one of them to daylight savings. Still, it was a nice first attempt...]
On 5/31/07, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
On 31/05/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Yeah, there are millions of folks who can identify things later. Except that it's much easier to do it up front.
The other problem is that, with aircraft, the notice saying what it is is usually a long way away from the good point for an overall picture, which is a little less true for flowers :-)
It's a freebie. Do as you like, but sometimes it's nice not to have to think or seek, especially when the information is right there at hand
just
for the clicking. Even when I'm not dealing with 16,000 images at a
pop,
it's easier.
I did an entire museum a little while ago - the trick I used was to do two seperate sets of photos, the good camera taking high-res shots of every artifact and the small compact running off lots of context photos ("here is the entire cabinet") and pictures of labels, etc. Put the two sets together, sort by timestamp, and you're done.
[Or would be had I not forgotten to set one of them to daylight savings. Still, it was a nice first attempt...]
--
- Andrew Gray
andrew.gray@dunelm.org.uk
Yeah, I do this if I'm shooting in gardens, take two cameras, shoot the label and broad shot, then shoot the images I want with my good camera. Also for my art. For me the flowers don't always come with signs, except for the ones I'm growing. When I shoot in the field I take a cheap sketch book and a marker and write a sign and shoot it. But yes, with air shows the signs are often also crowded with the other folks at the air shows, and not usually are they the one shot of the plane you want (cutting off nose and tail)--still, it can be useful.
We're getting more articles on non-French/English war machines, like the Turk I bullied into working on Turkish battleships, so if there are non-Western European planes, get good pictures of those.
Wikipedia has some devoted folks taking good pictures.
KP
Mark Wagner stated for the record:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each other--took some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the display tags alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try for a square-on front view, a square-on side view, a front corner view, and close-ups of any significant markings (tail number, nose art, and anything else that looks interesting).
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try to shoot between it's 5 and 7 o'clock -- the engines give seeker a brighter IR source to home on.
But I appreciate all the photography advice too! I'm not a good photographer, my technique is to take a LOT of pictures and hope I get lucky.
On 5/31/07, Sean Barrett sean@epoptic.com wrote:
Mark Wagner stated for the record:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each
other--took
some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the display
tags
alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try for a square-on front view, a square-on side view, a front corner view, and close-ups of any significant markings (tail number, nose art, and anything else that looks interesting).
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try to shoot between it's 5 and 7 o'clock -- the engines give seeker a brighter IR source to home on.
But I appreciate all the photography advice too! I'm not a good photographer, my technique is to take a LOT of pictures and hope I get lucky.
-- Sean Barrett | Nov shmoz ka pop? sean@epoptic.com |
You don't have to be an artist to take good pictures, you just have to take a lot of pictures, it takes practice--evaluate your results, figure out how to do better next time. You do have to be an artist to take great pictures. For Wikipedia, great pictures are not the same thing as for an artists, though. If you take an in-focus picture of what you trying to illustrate, without any extraneous artifacts (dust, dirt, solar images), crop it appropriately for upload in a large file size, with a reasonable license (I'm keen on public domain), then you can provide a great image for an article.
KP
On 6/1/07, Mark Wagner carnildo@gmail.com wrote:
On 5/29/07, K P kpbotany@gmail.com wrote:
Last air show I went to, photographers kept bumping into each
other--took
some fun pictures of that after a while. Be sure to shoot the display
tags
alongside the planes or whatever you shoot (I assume you're shooting digital), as it may make accurate identification and use in articles easier.
When I'm shooting airplanes, I try for a square-on front view, a square-on side view, a front corner view, and close-ups of any significant markings (tail number, nose art, and anything else that looks interesting.
That's awesome! I do my best, but if I get one good shot as they speed by,
I count myself lucky.