Fred Bauder writes:
Turning articles in the area of communist history over to the tender mercies of 172 is not a solution. It's not a matter of experience, although newbie POV warriors are pretty bad too. It is a fact, that in practice, a determined (and experienced) POV pusher can get their way just by wearing down any opposition. Robert, who started this thread, is another major offender.
Huh? How did I getinserted into this? In any case, how can you make this statement, after I have been working so hard to comes to turn with you of late? I especially have been trying to find areas of argreement with you on the Chiropractic medicine article. Why won't you take "yes" for an answer?
I find the same odd attitude from Danny and others. They claim that they disagree with me, and that I push my views too much. However, if you check the Talk pages of the articles in question (as well as the recent archives of this very list) you will see that I constantly invite others to add their own points of view. In fact, one can reasonbly say that I have been begging Danny and others to contribute to several articles, on several topics, on precisely the points that they disagree with me on! That - by definition - is the best sign of good faith one can have from a Wikipedia contributor.
My problem with Fred Bauder, Danny and others is that they demand that I add material they agree with, and they want me to write their own POVs for them. As I have been repeating here many times in the last month, if you have some information that is useful for an article, by all means please add it, in NPOV fashion.
Just stop attacking me for not writing the articles in the way that you want to. Is this so much to ask?
Robert (RK)
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Robert a écrit:
Fred Bauder writes:
Turning articles in the area of communist history over to the tender mercies of 172 is not a solution. It's not a matter of experience, although newbie POV warriors are pretty bad too. It is a fact, that in practice, a determined (and experienced) POV pusher can get their way just by wearing down any opposition. Robert, who started this thread, is another major offender.
Huh? How did I getinserted into this? In any case, how can you make this statement, after I have been working so hard to comes to turn with you of late? I especially have been trying to find areas of argreement with you on the Chiropractic medicine article. Why won't you take "yes" for an answer?
I find the same odd attitude from Danny and others. They claim that they disagree with me, and that I push my views too much. However, if you check the Talk pages of the articles in question (as well as the recent archives of this very list) you will see that I constantly invite others to add their own points of view. In fact, one can reasonbly say that I have been begging Danny and others to contribute to several articles, on several topics, on precisely the points that they disagree with me on! That - by definition - is the best sign of good faith one can have from a Wikipedia contributor.
My problem with Fred Bauder, Danny and others is that they demand that I add material they agree with, and they want me to write their own POVs for them. As I have been repeating here many times in the last month, if you have some information that is useful for an article, by all means please add it, in NPOV fashion.
Just stop attacking me for not writing the articles in the way that you want to. Is this so much to ask?
Robert (RK)
Hi Robert.
While it is true that Fred attacked you, and that it is understandable that you feel upset, please try to avoid escalating in doing the same in reverse to others. I think that here, Danny would be in right to feel you are launching a personal attack against him for no reason.
Please, do not fuel a flame war :-)
You do seem to have moderated your attitude. Can I take yes for an answer? Of course, its just that [[chiropractic medicine]] is a bit down my priority list right now. I had not checked back for several days, and I do see you are having at least some dialog with the young chiropractic student who is looking at it.
Fred
From: Robert rkscience100@yahoo.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2004 18:40:52 -0700 (PDT) To: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] If you want to add info, then just do it. Ok?
Huh? How did I getinserted into this? In any case, how can you make this statement, after I have been working so hard to comes to turn with you of late? I especially have been trying to find areas of argreement with you on the Chiropractic medicine article. Why won't you take "yes" for an answer?