Howdy all, I just wrote a new article, [[List of ethnic slurs]]. I've put a redirect at [[List of racial epithets]]. Now, the list also includes terms for people based on their religion, but I don't think that the article title is that big a deal. Now, on to my request.
Because I've from the United States, the list is obviously heavily populated with American English examples. I'm hoping that people from other countries (especially non-English speaking ones) will stop by to add in their own terms.
Just to clarify, I'm interested in this as a scholarly pursuit, although it will probably be used for unsavory purposes by unsavory individuals. If you could all take the time to go look and make whatever changes you think will improve the article, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_ethnic_slurs
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--- Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com wrote:
Howdy all, I just wrote a new article, [[List of ethnic slurs]]. I've put a redirect at [[List of racial epithets]]. Now, the list also includes terms for people based on their religion, but I don't think that the article title is that big a deal. Now, on to my request.
Because I've from the United States, the list is obviously heavily populated with American English examples. I'm hoping that people from other countries (especially non-English speaking ones) will stop by to add in their own terms.
Just to clarify, I'm interested in this as a scholarly pursuit, although it will probably be used for unsavory purposes by unsavory individuals. If you could all take the time to go look and make whatever changes you think will improve the article, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
Interesting...Can we really add non-english terminology here ? Don't you think it will get removed for being non-english word on the english wiki ?
As a matter of interest, would you accept "Bougnoule" ?
I'm interested - sort of - in it, for "scholarly pursuit" :-)
It is possible to link it to the an accepted definition (from a politically correct point of view) to the french wiki, and to another defintion (rejected for being racist) from point of view (hidden in the history).
Anthere
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Dante Alighieri wrote:
Howdy all, I just wrote a new article, [[List of ethnic slurs]]. I've put a redirect at [[List of racial epithets]]. Now, the list also includes terms for people based on their religion, but I don't think that the article title is that big a deal. Now, on to my request.
Because I've from the United States, the list is obviously heavily populated with American English examples. I'm hoping that people from other countries (especially non-English speaking ones) will stop by to add in their own terms.
Just to clarify, I'm interested in this as a scholarly pursuit, although it will probably be used for unsavory purposes by unsavory individuals. If you could all take the time to go look and make whatever changes you think will improve the article, I'd really appreciate it. Thanks in advance!
I would express a concern about the title. "Ethnic" is certainly more comprehensive than "racial", so that part is a clear improvement. On the other hand I find "slurs" to be more POV than "epithets". I see a need to maintain a perspective of time. What may be a slur to-day may not always have been so. When the Doukhobors were given that name it was intended as a slur by the Tsarists; eventually they assumed the name themselves and the pejorative nature of the word dropped away. Contrariwise, black Americans were once called "colored", and that term was generally accepted in its time. It has since evolved away from acceptability, but it was certainly an improvement over "nigger".
Eclecticology
At 10:01 AM 6/9/2003, you wrote:
I would express a concern about the title. "Ethnic" is certainly more comprehensive than "racial", so that part is a clear improvement. On the other hand I find "slurs" to be more POV than "epithets". I see a need to maintain a perspective of time. What may be a slur to-day may not always have been so. When the Doukhobors were given that name it was intended as a slur by the Tsarists; eventually they assumed the name themselves and the pejorative nature of the word dropped away. Contrariwise, black Americans were once called "colored", and that term was generally accepted in its time. It has since evolved away from acceptability, but it was certainly an improvement over "nigger".
Eclecticology
Well, the problem here is that there are two terms in common usage, ethnic slur and racial epithet. While I suppose you are correct that ethnic epithet would be more NPOV than either of the other two, it would be a contrived phrase that would not show up if someone was doing a search on the topic (as they will type in racial epithet or ethnic slur). Aside from that, I think the way to handle your issue in the article (that not all slurs have always been so, and vice versa) is simply to add a note to those words for which it is relevant.
----- Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of great moral crisis." -Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321
I think any of them are equally usable. This agonizing over political correctness seems pointless. I personally like "racial slur" the most because it seems the most common. Once we don't even know how to state a lack of political correctness politically correctly, we've gone too far. --LittleDan
Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com wrote: At 10:01 AM 6/9/2003, you wrote:
I would express a concern about the title. "Ethnic" is certainly more comprehensive than "racial", so that part is a clear improvement. On the other hand I find "slurs" to be more POV than "epithets". I see a need to maintain a perspective of time. What may be a slur to-day may not always have been so. When the Doukhobors were given that name it was intended as a slur by the Tsarists; eventually they assumed the name themselves and the pejorative nature of the word dropped away. Contrariwise, black Americans were once called "colored", and that term was generally accepted in its time. It has since evolved away from acceptability, but it was certainly an improvement over "nigger".
Eclecticology
Well, the problem here is that there are two terms in common usage, ethnic slur and racial epithet. While I suppose you are correct that ethnic epithet would be more NPOV than either of the other two, it would be a contrived phrase that would not show up if someone was doing a search on the topic (as they will type in racial epithet or ethnic slur). Aside from that, I think the way to handle your issue in the article (that not all slurs have always been so, and vice versa) is simply to add a note to those words for which it is relevant.
----- Dante Alighieri dalighieri@digitalgrapefruit.com
"The darkest places in hell are reserved for those who maintain their neutrality in times of great moral crisis." -Dante Alighieri, 1265-1321
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