"Judson Dunn" wrote
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Why is it overkill? What is there on non-encyclopedia pages that should be searchable?
Risker
Policy pages, guidelines, essays.
List of redlinks: anyone who doesn't realise that should get back to writing articles. The onsite search is rather poor, for example at showing versions without diacritics.
Charles
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but policy pages and guidelines and essays are searchable, by usingthe search function on wikipedia.
the solution to inadequacies there in other respects is to upgrade it. I though thatthis was in fact an ongoing project? or hove we given it up, in favor of becoming willing to do whatever google says we should do?
First and hopefully uncontroversial step: make user and user talk space non searchable via google etc. That will at any rate diminish the tendency to use Wikipedia as a personal web site.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 10:52 AM, Charles Matthews charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
"Judson Dunn" wrote
On Sun, Apr 27, 2008 at 8:41 PM, Risker risker.wp@gmail.com wrote:
Why is it overkill? What is there on non-encyclopedia pages that should be searchable?
Risker
Policy pages, guidelines, essays.
List of redlinks: anyone who doesn't realise that should get back to writing articles. The onsite search is rather poor, for example at showing versions without diacritics.
Charles
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On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 11:59 AM, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
the solution to inadequacies there in other respects is to upgrade it. I though thatthis was in fact an ongoing project? or hove we given it up, in favor of becoming willing to do whatever google says we should do?
But google has pretty good search. What do we do that google mandates? I think if google started mandating things people didn't like, a new search engine would come around pretty quickly. Yahoo and MSN aren't drastically worse now even.
Searching is not a commodity yet, I don't see why Wiki[m|p]edia should spend a huge amount of time on it, it's a pretty serious non-core problem imo. Our search is plenty good for people to find the article on monkeys, let's let google worry about diacritical marks, word stemming, pagerank etc.
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:59 PM, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
First and hopefully uncontroversial step: make user and user talk space non searchable via google etc. That will at any rate diminish the tendency to use Wikipedia as a personal web site.
First step should be to add a single checkbox to Wikipedia's internal search to search *all* namespaces, without having to check every single box. (Or is there already a way to do that?)
Anyone wanna file a bug report for me?
2008/4/28 Anthony wikimail@inbox.org:
On Mon, Apr 28, 2008 at 12:59 PM, David Goodman dgoodmanny@gmail.com wrote:
First and hopefully uncontroversial step: make user and user talk space non searchable via google etc. That will at any rate diminish the tendency to use Wikipedia as a personal web site.
First step should be to add a single checkbox to Wikipedia's internal search to search *all* namespaces, without having to check every single box. (Or is there already a way to do that?)
OH YES PLEASE.
Anyone wanna file a bug report for me?
I'm cc'ing this to wikitech-l, there's a lot of really good active work in progress right now on the search. (That's why the internal search is productively usable now, as opposed to not being.)
- d.