--- Michael Snow wikipedia@earthlink.net wrote:
For people using "not notable" or "not encyclopedic" as bare-bones justifications, I would suggest that they retrain themselves to elaborate a little bit more. By themselves, these are meaningless shorthand for "should be deleted" - we know that already, that's why you came to the page. Point out that you put in a little bit of effort to be confident that it doesn't belong. "I've never heard of it and couldn't find any evidence that anyone else has, either" will go a lot farther than "I've never heard of it so it must not be notable".
--Michael Snow
But "not notable" and "not encyclopedic" is not the same thing as "I never heard of it". There are lots of things on VfD right now which are listed because they're not notable, or at least the nominator believes so, which has nothing to do with whether they're obscure or not. Things like [[Countries on two continents]], [[Russian joke]], [[F11]], [[Cities with same latitude]], [[Axis of weasel]], [[Hypocoristics for Spanish names]], [[Esuvee]], [[Vampire lifestyle]], etc., etc., etc.
RickK
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