On Saturday 01 February 2003 04:00 am, Clutch wrote:
.... I have no religious or ideological motivation for saying this, but I too have read both sides of the story and agree with Ed the global warming as an unprecedented and imminent disaster seems like a grand hoax. ....
With friends like you Ed doesn't need enemies:
Well Clutch you also think there is a grand conspiracy with the US government poisoning the American people by adding fluoride to their drinking water. And on top of that you think that the Apollo Moon landings were a hoax. In addition there doesn't seem to be an anti-Semite you didn't like (thinking of the considerable work you have done to absolutely minimize that aspect of Richard Wagner and now Henry Ford). Oh and your work on [[Jehovah's Witnesses]] and daughter articles is Witness-friendly enough for publication in WatchTower. So IMO your above words carry very little weight - at least for me.
With that said, I do think that Ed's POV in regards to global warming and the Unification Church is too great for him to make substantial changes to those articles without unintentionally violating NPOV. For example, I know my POV on homosexuality is too great to make any changes greater than adding or modifying a paragraph in the homosexuality-related articles.
Some issues are simply hot buttons for people and for the sake of NPOV we should voluntarily not make substantive changes to those articles (otherwise we unconsciously give our POV too much weight in articles). Of course there are rare people like Montrealais who in spite of his strong POV on gay issues is able to make what is IMO NPOV contributions in that area.
We should all understand that the ability to 'write for the enemy' is difficult and that trying to write for your mortal enemy whom you absolutely despise is very difficult and impossible to do correctly for most people.
--mav
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Daniel Mayer wrote:
We should all understand that the ability to 'write for the enemy' is difficult and that trying to write for your mortal enemy whom you absolutely despise is very difficult and impossible to do correctly for most people.
I think that's right. And as head peacemaker around here, I'd like to add this: let's *all*, and I mean *all of us*, try to go around with the default assumption that we're all *trying* to behave in a _co-operative_ rather than _competitive_ manner. Let's encourage a social equilibrium of love, rather than argument.
When you see someone making a POV remark, assume until you just absolutely can't help it, that they are *trying* to accomodate you, but that it's *hard*, for the reasons that Mav writes about above.
--Jimbo