In a message dated 1/15/2009 7:52:46 PM Pacific Standard Time, geniice@gmail.com writes:
Against that you have to consider that granting copyright in such cases effectively allows someone who can limit the physical access to the document to enjoy all the benefits of copyright even though they didn't create it.
Sometimes the access control doesn't mean much. New popular edition maps are cheap. So acquiring them to scan does not present a major problem. Older less mass produced maps? 10K+. In effect you prevent large parts of the public domain ever being meaningfully PD.>>
That doesn't make sense to me. How do you limit PD items? How can I, direct the land office in my local county to *stop* giving copies to people who walk in? I can't.
If something is PD, then there is *some* where you can go or write or call to get a copy.
You are confusing the *creation* of an image, with the *creation* of the original document.
What we're discussing here is limiting the use of your creation, not the original creation.
Unless you're actually proposing that PD-item scanners are actually buying originals and then destroying all copies of them in the world except their own. I really doubt that is occuring.
Will
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2009/1/16 WJhonson@aol.com:
That doesn't make sense to me. How do you limit PD items? How can I, direct the land office in my local county to *stop* giving copies to people who walk in? I can't.
You seem to assume that all PD items are in public collections.
If something is PD, then there is *some* where you can go or write or call to get a copy.
You are confusing the *creation* of an image, with the *creation* of the original document.
What we're discussing here is limiting the use of your creation, not the original creation.
Unless you're actually proposing that PD-item scanners are actually buying originals and then destroying all copies of them in the world except their own. I really doubt that is occuring.
Will
Doesn't need to happen. In many cases there are only a very small number of copies or even just one. Most collectors are not going to allow people nears there stuff with scanners unless they are paid for access.
But even public collections have this problem. I doubt you would be able to get a scanner into the imperial war museum collection or the British library collection. Under your system the only way to get a copy of those things not protected by rather limiting conditions. For example he's the conditions for the imperial war museam:
http://collections.iwm.org.uk/upload/pdf/newlegal02a.pdf