Oldak says: ++++++++++++++++ Just some quick Google results: +"Water chestnut" +"Eleocharis dulcis" ( http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%2B%22Water+chestnut%22+%2B%22Eleocharis+du... ) produces 807 results)
+"Water chestnut" +"Trapa natans" ( http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox&rls... ) gives 25,700 results
Without searching further, wouldn't the page (were it not a disambiguation page) better point to T. natans, rather than E. dulcis as you suggest? +++++++++++++++++
Oldak, I don't mean to be snippy, but, I don't really care what Google results on that search say, if (according to Wikipedia)...
Water caltrop is: "sold as an occasional streetside snack in the south of" China.
Eleocharis dulcis is: "The small, rounded corms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corm have a crispy white flesh and can be eaten raw, slightly boiled, grilled, pickled, or tinned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canning. They are a popular ingredient in Western-style Chinese dishes. In China, they are most often eaten raw, sometimes sweetened. They can also be ground into a flourhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flourwhich is used especially to make fried cakes called *matigao* (马蹄糕; mǎtí gāo). They are unusual among vegetables for remaining crisp even after being cooked or canned."
Which one do you think 98% of Wikipedia users are actually searching for? How many of them might be confused by their "eenie meenie mynie moe" on the disambiguation page.
And Thomas Dalton said: ********************** It would appear that two different plants are known as "Water chestnut" and neither is significantly more important than the other, so we have a disambig page. ********************** To which I'd say, see "above".
By the way, great point from Andrew Gray about the "corn" issue, especially in Europe. Maybe "corn" was not my best counter-example. How about: [[Nutmeg]]?
Gregory Kohs schreef:
Oldak, I don't mean to be snippy, but, I don't really care what Google results on that search say, if (according to Wikipedia)...
Water caltrop is: "sold as an occasional streetside snack in the south of" China.
Eleocharis dulcis is: "The small, rounded corms http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corm have a crispy white flesh and can be eaten raw, slightly boiled, grilled, pickled, or tinned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canning. They are a popular ingredient in Western-style Chinese dishes. In China, they are most often eaten raw, sometimes sweetened. They can also be ground into a flourhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flourwhich is used especially to make fried cakes called *matigao* (??????; m??tí g??o). They are unusual among vegetables for remaining crisp even after being cooked or canned."
Which one do you think 98% of Wikipedia users are actually searching for? How many of them might be confused by their "eenie meenie mynie moe" on the disambiguation page.
I'm not an expert on these plants; never having met them before; but the number of interwiki links on both pages seem to confirm that the most well known, and therefore the most common of these two, even in Western Europe, would be Trapa natans.
But a disambiguation page is probably best.
Eugene
On 22/01/07, Gregory Kohs thekohser@gmail.com wrote:
Oldak says: ++++++++++++++++ Just some quick Google results: +"Water chestnut" +"Eleocharis dulcis" ( http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%2B%22Water+chestnut%22+%2B%22Eleocharis+du... ) produces 807 results)
+"Water chestnut" +"Trapa natans" ( http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en&safe=off&client=firefox&rls... ) gives 25,700 results
Without searching further, wouldn't the page (were it not a disambiguation page) better point to T. natans, rather than E. dulcis as you suggest? +++++++++++++++++ Which one do you think 98% of Wikipedia users are actually searching for?
I admit my search may skew the results in favour of botany (rather than cuisine or popular culture), but since matching "Water chestnut" with T. natans gives 30 times more results, I would say there is a significance to my results.
I'm surprised that the association that seems obvious to you produces less than 1000 Google hits.