The italic lightweight notes at the top of articles are "hatnotes" (per Wikipedia:Hatnote, in the Manual of Style). Anyone ready with the background of this term?
Charles
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On 11/29/07, charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
The italic lightweight notes at the top of articles are "hatnotes" (per Wikipedia:Hatnote, in the Manual of Style). Anyone ready with the background of this term?
Sounds like something somebody pulled out of [a hat]. Really I don't know, and have never been a fan of the term or the "rules" they came up with regarding the placement of in-article disambiguation guides.
—C.W.
On 11/29/07, charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com < charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com> wrote:
The italic lightweight notes at the top of articles are "hatnotes" (per Wikipedia:Hatnote, in the Manual of Style). Anyone ready with the background of this term?
Just a guess, but if the footnote is named after the thing at the lowest point of the human body, then a hatnote could be named after the thing at the highest point.
IIRC, Stevertigo made up the term. Search the archives of this list - he talked about it sometime in the last couple months.
On Nov 29, 2007 11:33 AM, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
Just a guess, but if the footnote is named after the thing at the lowest point of the human body, then a hatnote could be named after the thing
at
the highest point.
That's my guess too, although headnote would make more sense.
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On 11/29/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
Just a guess, but if the footnote is named after the thing at the lowest point of the human body, then a hatnote could be named after the thing at the highest point.
That's my guess too, although headnote would make more sense.
Yes it would, cf. "header" and "footer", but apparently "headnote" already has some other meaning in court documents, which is not analogous to most uses of informative italic text on Wikipedia. Seriously there has got to be a better word.
—C.W.
On Nov 29, 2007 6:42 PM, Charlotte Webb charlottethewebb@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/29/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
Just a guess, but if the footnote is named after the thing at the lowest point of the human body, then a hatnote could be named after the thing at the highest point.
That's my guess too, although headnote would make more sense.
Yes it would, cf. "header" and "footer", but apparently "headnote" already has some other meaning in court documents, which is not analogous to most uses of informative italic text on Wikipedia. Seriously there has got to be a better word.
I like it! It's like there's the regular article, and ohh! There's a little hat on it! Helping me to find what I need. How lovely!
I'm totally in favour of the term hatnote. It's so cute!
--Oskar
Oskar Sigvardsson wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 6:42 PM, Charlotte Webb charlottethewebb@gmail.com wrote:
On 11/29/07, Thomas Dalton thomas.dalton@gmail.com wrote:
Just a guess, but if the footnote is named after the thing at the lowest point of the human body, then a hatnote could be named after the thing at the highest point.
That's my guess too, although headnote would make more sense.
Yes it would, cf. "header" and "footer", but apparently "headnote" already has some other meaning in court documents, which is not analogous to most uses of informative italic text on Wikipedia. Seriously there has got to be a better word.
I like it! It's like there's the regular article, and ohh! There's a little hat on it! Helping me to find what I need. How lovely!
I'm totally in favour of the term hatnote. It's so cute!
I have vague recollections of the term being used for notes (or questions) being passed around in a hat from which speakers can randomly choose a speaking topic or, election candidates can choose a question to answer. Unfortunately, I don't have any references for that view so it would be wrong to insist.
Ec
On 29/11/2007, charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com charles.r.matthews@ntlworld.com wrote:
The italic lightweight notes at the top of articles are "hatnotes" (per Wikipedia:Hatnote, in the Manual of Style). Anyone ready with the background of this term?
We made it up (or resurrected it from a very obscure usage, as with "disambiguation" - I must post my little study of this one day), I believe.
As jargon goes, it's not bad - it's succinct, and fairly clear. I've not yet seen anyone encounter the term and not realise immediately what it means, and I've certainly seen it used a lot as though it were a proper term of art.
On Nov 30, 2007 10:40 AM, Andrew Gray shimgray@gmail.com wrote:
As jargon goes, it's not bad - it's succinct, and fairly clear. I've not yet seen anyone encounter the term and not realise immediately what it means, and I've certainly seen it used a lot as though it were a proper term of art.
Yes, I like it too. It also handily implies that the note is something separate, but attached to the article.