Maybe I'm missing something, but since when have we been paying for bandwidth, server space, and admin time that we can demand a full accounting? From what I understand, this list is owned by the wikimedia foundation, which has given liberal leeway to its users to join, post, and moderate the list. However, liberal leeway and carte blanche are completely different things.
List admins have been given the duty to ensure that the e-mail list runs as smoothly as possible; which they have done in the main. They are not necessarily arbiters of equity or democracy; that is not their function.
If someone, such as Marc, has a specific issue with the list, I am certain that a request may be made to the wikimedia foundation, likely the legal department.
Furthermore, the privacy concerns raised by asking for a list of moderated members are rather substantial.
Remember, even as community members, we are still guests.
--Avi
Avi wrote:
If someone, such as Marc, has a specific issue with the list, I am certain that a request may be made to the wikimedia foundation, likely the legal department.
I don't see anything in this thread that would warrant dragging in a legal department. You are presuming a dispute that isn't there.
Ec
On 9/4/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Avi wrote:
If someone, such as Marc, has a specific issue with the list, I am
certain
that a request may be made to the wikimedia foundation, likely the legal department.
I don't see anything in this thread that would warrant dragging in a legal department. You are presuming a dispute that isn't there.
Mmm, I'm guessing privacy issues? Then again, I don't know about the state of privacy laws in the US or the state of Florida.
Johnleemk
This discussion is officially TL;DR
--Anirudh
On 9/4/07, John Lee johnleemk@gmail.com wrote:
On 9/4/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Avi wrote:
If someone, such as Marc, has a specific issue with the list, I am
certain
that a request may be made to the wikimedia foundation, likely the
legal
department.
I don't see anything in this thread that would warrant dragging in a legal department. You are presuming a dispute that isn't there.
Mmm, I'm guessing privacy issues? Then again, I don't know about the state of privacy laws in the US or the state of Florida.
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My point exactly. An example of reductio ad absurdum. If someone actually were to address the legal department, I expect an immediate and concise answer of "none of your concern; thank you and have a nice day" :)
Thanks,
On 9/4/07, Ray Saintonge saintonge@telus.net wrote:
Avi wrote:
If someone, such as Marc, has a specific issue with the list, I am
certain
that a request may be made to the wikimedia foundation, likely the legal department.
I don't see anything in this thread that would warrant dragging in a legal department. You are presuming a dispute that isn't there.
Ec