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Poor, Edmund W

4 Feb 2003 4 Feb '03

4:28 p.m.

Jimbo, In addition to blocking Isis at your and her mutual request, I also blocked 5 "MyPasswordIs" usernames. See below. P.S. I think the mailing list is down. I haven't gotten any messages since Mon 2/3 at 2:17 PM. Ed Poor user_name user_id MyPasswordIsHELLO 7961 MyPasswordIsHELLOW 7977 MyPasswordIsSCHMOOZE 7985 MyPasswordIsYELLOW 7973 MyPasswordIsYellow 7974

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The Cunctator

4 Feb 4 Feb

7:52 p.m.

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 11:28, Poor, Edmund W wrote:

Jimbo, In addition to blocking Isis at your and her mutual request, I also blocked 5 "MyPasswordIs" usernames. See below.

Please unblock these users. Blocking them just encourages the behavior. If I'm not mistaken, you have not been granted authority to block those usernames.

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Jason Williams

7:58 p.m.

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:52:47PM -0500, The Cunctator wrote:

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 11:28, Poor, Edmund W wrote:

Jimbo, In addition to blocking Isis at your and her mutual request, I also blocked 5 "MyPasswordIs" usernames. See below.

Please unblock these users. Blocking them just encourages the behavior.

And cleaning up vandalism encourages vandals? -- jason(a)jasonandali.org.uk http://www.jasonandali.org.uk/jason/

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The Cunctator

8:35 p.m.

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 14:58, Jason Williams wrote:

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:52:47PM -0500, The Cunctator wrote:

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 11:28, Poor, Edmund W wrote:

Jimbo, In addition to blocking Isis at your and her mutual request, I also blocked 5 "MyPasswordIs" usernames. See below.

Please unblock these users. Blocking them just encourages the behavior.

And cleaning up vandalism encourages vandals?

First: what's the connection between the above thread and your question? Second: Calling it vandalism does. Cleaning it up doesn't.

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Jason Williams

5 Feb 5 Feb

8:48 a.m.

On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 03:35:42PM -0500, The Cunctator wrote:

In addition to blocking Isis at your and her mutual request, I also blocked 5 "MyPasswordIs" usernames. See below.

Please unblock these users. Blocking them just encourages the behavior.

And cleaning up vandalism encourages vandals?

First: what's the connection between the above thread and your question?

Quite simple; blocking users that subvert the system is equivalent to cleaning up after vandalism. -- jason(a)jasonandali.org.uk http://www.jasonandali.org.uk/jason/

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Zoe

4 Feb 4 Feb

10:10 p.m.

Apparently. I've received lots of flak on the list for being concerned about reverting vandalism. Zoe Jason Williams <jason(a)jasonandali.org.uk> wrote:On Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 02:52:47PM -0500, The Cunctator wrote:

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 11:28, Poor, Edmund W wrote:

Jimbo, In addition to blocking Isis at your and her mutual request, I also blocked 5 "MyPasswordIs" usernames. See below.

Please unblock these users. Blocking them just encourages the behavior.

And cleaning up vandalism encourages vandals? -- jason(a)jasonandali.org.uk http://www.jasonandali.org.uk/jason/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)wikipedia.org http://www.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now

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erik_moeller＠gmx.de

8:42 p.m.

Cunc-

Please unblock these users. Blocking them just encourages the behavior. If I'm not mistaken, you have not been granted authority to block those usernames.

When Ed wrote "block", what he meant was "change the password". In this case, anyone could do that, so Ed did not need any special authority to do so. In fact, I will change the passwords of new accounts of this type myself if nobody else does. I have explained several times why these accounts are a bad idea and suggested alternatives, but the user who created them has ignored these suggestions. Regards, Erik

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The Cunctator

8:53 p.m.

On Tue, 2003-02-04 at 15:42, Erik Moeller wrote:

Cunc-

Please unblock these users. Blocking them just encourages the behavior. If I'm not mistaken, you have not been granted authority to block those usernames.

When Ed wrote "block", what he meant was "change the password". In this case, anyone could do that, so Ed did not need any special authority to do so. In fact, I will change the passwords of new accounts of this type myself if nobody else does. I have explained several times why these accounts are a bad idea and suggested alternatives, but the user who created them has ignored these suggestions.

If that's what he meant, then that's fine.

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Jimmy Wales

5 Feb 5 Feb

11:42 a.m.

The Cunctator wrote:

Please unblock these users. Blocking them just encourages the behavior.

How does it encourage the behavior?

If I'm not mistaken, you have not been granted authority to block those usernames.

Implicitly, whoever created these accounts granted *anyone* authority to block them by changing the passwords. It's just a goofy idea, that's all. I'm not even understanding what the point of it is supposed to be. Anonymity? That's easily available already -- just create a new user, it takes 5 seconds. --Jimbo

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