From: "Poor, Edmund W" Edmund.W.Poor@abc.com Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: "English Wikipedia" wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] Diffs and sources Date: Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:08:56 -0700 MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: from mc1-f4.hotmail.com ([64.4.50.11]) by mc1-s21.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:09:51 -0700 Received: from mail.wikimedia.org ([207.142.131.234]) by mc1-f4.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6824); Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:09:06 -0700 Received: from zwinger.wikimedia.org (localhost.localdomain [127.0.0.1])by mail.wikimedia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4AAAF12501C1;Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:09:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail1.disney.com (mail1.disney.com [204.128.192.18])by mail.wikimedia.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1BB691AC0166for wikien-l@Wikipedia.org; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 13:09:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from imr11.disney.pvt (imr11.disney.pvt [153.6.60.111]) bymail1.disney.com with ESMTP; Thu, 12 Aug 2004 06:10:20 -0700 Received: from sm-flor-xc04.wdw.disney.com (sm-flor-xc04.wdw.disney.com[172.16.177.31]) by imr11.disney.pvt with ESMTP;Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:12:58 -0400 Received: from SM-FLOR-XC02.wdw.disney.com ([172.16.177.19]) bysm-flor-xc04.wdw.disney.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:08:58 -0400 Received: from SM-NYNY-XC01.nena.wdpr.disney.com ([167.13.137.76]) bySM-FLOR-XC02.wdw.disney.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(5.0.2195.5329); Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:08:58 -0400 Received: from sm-nyny-xm05.nena.wdpr.disney.com ([167.13.137.80]) bySM-NYNY-XC01.nena.wdpr.disney.com with MicrosoftSMTPSVC(5.0.2195.6713); Thu, 12 Aug 2004 09:08:57 -0400 X-Message-Info: NDMZeIBu+spOgnkywZrzG6xILpbt1enU8fQQbez2oQw= X-Original-To: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Delivered-To: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6487.1 content-class: urn:content-classes:message Message-Id: E506B3FF6BC1254C9AC1B948C380BC2801FBB770@sm-nyny-xm05.nena.wdpr.disney.com X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: Thread-Topic: [WikiEN-l] Diffs and sources Thread-Index: AcSAbYXrJ3NltIsITUW0WMpCs1YQ6g== X-OriginalArrivalTime: 12 Aug 2004 13:08:57.0005 (UTC)FILETIME=[8687BDD0:01C4806D] X-BeenThere: wikien-l@Wikipedia.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5c2 Precedence: list List-Id: English Wikipedia <wikien-l.Wikipedia.org> List-Unsubscribe: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l,mailto:wikien-l-request@Wikipedia.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Archive: http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l List-Post: mailto:wikien-l@Wikipedia.org List-Help: mailto:wikien-l-request@Wikipedia.org?subject=help List-Subscribe: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l,mailto:wikien-l-request@Wikipedia.org?subject=subscribe Errors-To: wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org Return-Path: wikien-l-bounces@Wikipedia.org
Robert,
I know all this is crucially important to you, but I wish you would cool down a bit. The Sabbath starts tonight, and I hope you will take some time for reflection once the sun goes down.
To handle a controversy about sources, I suggest we DESCRIBE that controversy. If a newspaper misquoted somebody about topic X, then we should mention the "misquoting incident" in the article about X.
What you wrote could simply be marked up in Wikipedia format and inserted verbatim into the article:
==Misquotes of Rabbi Uri Regev==
The newspaper editor who first wrote about Regev's words was publicly forced to retract her claims. Columbia University Journalism School Professor Ari Goldman called the original story, which misrepresented Rabbi Regev, "irresponsible journalism" and said that it violated several basic principles of journalism regarding quoting people.
It is better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness. --Jewish saying, as quoted by Charles Schulz in "Peanuts"
Ed Poor A member of the Mediation Committee _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
In the spirit of compromise (or perhaps the spirit of being beaten down by all the accusations and rhetoric) I have (on the Talk: page) proposed a new wording for the section which omits the controversial claim altogether, makes no reference whatsoever to Rabbi Regev, and instead brings other more clearly documented claims. I hope that will end the discussion on this list, and return it to the Talk: page where it belongs.
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