Unbelievable but Shocking !
I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, but a look at the edit history of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests of IIPM and its stakeholders.
He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research&a...
Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM) articles as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_University&action=histor...
Nevertheless , this has be investigated or possibly reported to Arb Com.
-TC
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 11:30 AM, Pradeep Mohandas < pradeep.mohandas@gmail.com> wrote:
hi,
I do not understand why this accusation is written as a work of fiction.
Whatever the problems faced by an individual, it does not provide grounds for crimes like theft. If the person does resort to these methods, has to face the consequences, if found out. I am sure we appreciated User:Nichalp's contributions when they were made. However, when he/she has made mistakes and makes them multiple times, I think this also warrants serious investigation.
Pradeep Handheld
On 07/02/2012, guptchar@ovi.com guptchar@ovi.com wrote:
This is the story of Nichalp[1], an Indian student from Mumbai who became obsessed with editing Wikipedia at a young age. He transformed several articles into featured articles, and became a role model for many
editors.
He was granted the bureaucrat, oversight and administrator privileges - nobody deserved these rights more than him, not even Jimbo.
A major change in Nichalp's life came when he came to Australia for
higher
education. Facing a severe financial crunch, Nichalp decided to use the
only
extraordinary skill he had - editing Wikipedia - for making money. He
put up
ads on several freelancer recruiting websites, promising to write
articles
in oexchange for small amounts of money.[2] These were the days when the
PR
professionals had started realizing the importance of Wikipedia. There
were
many takers for Nichalp's services. With his "sockpuppet" accounts,
Nichalp
made a number of contributions (many of which stand deleted now).
Unfortunately for Nichalp, the Wikizealots live in an idealistic world.
They
don't realize that, in the long run, editors cannot be expected to
devote
their time to the project for free.[3] When the Wikihounds came to know about one of Nichalp's paid editing accounts they came after him. Nichalp knew he would be stalked in real life, so he made his main account
inactive.
Meanwhile, he continued to be active through his other paid editing accounts. A man of foresight, Nichalp started another account in April
2009
to gain back his admin rights.[4]
The Wikihounds have an astonishing ability to track the suspicious
accounts
- they tracked another one of Nichalp's paid editing accouents.[5] The
drama
prompted the Arbitration Committee to send him an email enquiry about the paid editing concerns. Nichalp's identity was well-known to those who had exposed his paid editing. The personal information that he had posted earlier on his user page and elsewhere on Wikipedia (and social
networking
sites) had made it easy for Wikihounds to stalk him in real life. Denial
was
not an option - Nichalp knew the Wikihounds were capable of producing evidence against him. Pleading not guilty would only gather more eyeballs and possibly lead to media attention - that could sabotage his
post-college
career. Pleading guilty was not an option either - it would lead to the
same
fate. Nichalp did what he felt was the best option before him. He neither accepted the charge, nor denied it. What happened next was unfortunate
for
him. Ignoring his 5-year long devotion to the project, the Arbitration Committee took away his bureaucrat, administrator and oversight rights
in an
unopposed judgment.[6] Realizing that his paid editing accounts may be under survelliance from
the
Wikihounds, Nichalp abandoned all of them. All of them, except one - the
one
he had started in April 2009 with the objective of gaining back his admin rights: Wifione. Nichalp carefully crafted his new wiki identity. He
devoted
this new account to earning money from India's most notorious self-styled "management guru". To make sure his paid editing does not appear
blatantly
obvious, Nichalp (or shall we call him Wifione, now?) engaged in a wide range of edits. Wifione rose up in the wiki-hierarchy and became the administrator. He tried not to appear like a paid editor, but the
constant
pressure from his client forced him to make constant edits to the pages associated with the client. Anyone looking at his top 50 edits would not fail to notice that much of his work in the article namespace was
devoted to
the pages associated with his client and its competitors.[7] But Wifione knew that nobody would oppose him openly: his client is infamous for suing
any
one who criticizes him or his organization. Nobody wants to be sued for
500
million bucks in a court that lies in the remotest part of the Indian subcontinent - traveling to and staying in Silchar during every court hearing could bankrupt a humble wiki editor. Besides, Wifione had taken
care
not to repeat the mistakes he had made as Nichalp - he had left no tracks that would lead the Wikihounds to him. Or so he thought.
[1] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Nichalp
[2]
wikipediareview.com/index.php?s=1122a1d3e604276b519c9501881856f4&showtopic=24786&st=0&p=177577&#entry177577
[3] en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Paid_editing
[4]
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&dir=prev&action=view&target=Wifione
[5]
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jimbo_Wales&oldid=295308358#Cash_for_spam
[6]
en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Arbitration_Committee/Noticeboard&oldid=296240244#Nichalp
[7] wikidashboard.appspot.com/enwiki/wiki/User:Wifione
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On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucherian@gmail.com wrote:
Unbelievable but Shocking !
I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ...
So far the evidence is not good.
but a look at the edit history of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests of IIPM and its stakeholders.
He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research&a...
It looks like he re-arranged the policy a lot in that edit, but there arnt many changes.
"trial" became "trial/litigation in any country"
and he added "independent" a few times.
"Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation."
"Any interpretation of primary source material requires reliable, independent secondary sources for that interpretation."
"'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so."
'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable, independent secondary sources that do so."
"Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources. Articles may make analytic or evaluative claims only if these have been published by a reliable secondary source."
"Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary sources. Articles ''may'' make an analytic or evaluative claim ''only if'' that has been published by ''multiple'' independent, reliable secondary sources."
Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM) articles as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_University&action=histor...
Nevertheless , this has be investigated or possibly reported to Arb Com.
I've alerted Arbcom as a courtesy, however a community assessment is needed in order to determine if there is any credible link to nichalp or any reason for a desysop.
-- John Vandenberg
Wifione commented on this discussion. He redacted some comments there, a few hours later, with this edit on WP:No Original Research - he changed "trial" to "trial/litigation in any country" and "published by any involved party" to "published/authored by any involved party" and also changed Book Reviews from being considered a secondary source to being considered a primary source. Its interesting to note that the changes he made in policy relate somewhat to the discussion taking place on an article talk page where he was involved.
Also, the following statements:
"Please provide valid sources to support this statement. MSN is not a reliable source." - Wifione 06:26, 3 February 2012 (UTC) (this discussion)
The MSN article is actually an article by IANS (an independent News Agency), carried by MSN and others like Yahoo News.
A comment about the same Yahoo News article: ".. Yahoo link simply shows the opinion of Mr. Devi Singh from IIM Lucknow. That is a self-published statement which should not be used to make a definitive statement." - Wifione 19:02, 5 February 2012 (UTC) (Same discussion)
Im not commenting on the contents of the original email, the above definitely looks a bit out of order to me.
Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2012 19:37:01 +1100 From: jayvdb@gmail.com To: wikimediaindia-l@lists.wikimedia.org CC: wikimedia-in-en@lists.wikimedia.org; wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Wikimediaindia-l] Pure Fiction: Nichalp and Wifione
On Wed, Feb 8, 2012 at 7:08 PM, CherianTinu Abraham tinucherian@gmail.com wrote:
Unbelievable but Shocking !
I am not sure if Wikifone is same as Nichalp, ...
So far the evidence is not good.
but a look at the edit history of Wikifone, the editor has some serious interest to protect the interests of IIPM and its stakeholders.
He seems to even change policy pages to suit his cause http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia%3ANo_original_research&a...
It looks like he re-arranged the policy a lot in that edit, but there arnt many changes.
"trial" became "trial/litigation in any country"
and he added "independent" a few times.
"Any interpretation of primary source material requires a reliable secondary source for that interpretation."
"Any interpretation of primary source material requires reliable, independent secondary sources for that interpretation."
"'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable secondary sources that do so."
'''Do not''' analyze, synthesize, interpret, or evaluate material found in a primary source yourself; instead, refer to reliable, independent secondary sources that do so."
"Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from secondary sources. Articles may make analytic or evaluative claims only if these have been published by a reliable secondary source."
"Wikipedia articles usually rely on material from reliable secondary sources. Articles ''may'' make an analytic or evaluative claim ''only if'' that has been published by ''multiple'' independent, reliable secondary sources."
Wifione seems to be working on IIM and Amity ( Competitors to IIPM) articles as well, possibly trying to show them in bad light. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Amity_University&action=histor...
Nevertheless , this has be investigated or possibly reported to Arb Com.
I've alerted Arbcom as a courtesy, however a community assessment is needed in order to determine if there is any credible link to nichalp or any reason for a desysop.
-- John Vandenberg
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