This page on a prominent alternate global media event is being called "blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OURMedia/NUESTROSMedios To my mind, it is a listing of themes at the conference, and participants, together with some background (including past conferences) that led to the growth of the network. Could others please give their inputs on this? FN
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Frederick Noronha fred@bytesforall.org Date: 20-Apr-2007 11:17 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] More on page deletions... To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Numbers are important. But I don't think everything can be judged by numbers alone.
(Someone was asking on a journalism mailing list how 30+ US lives match up with 190+ in Iraq as far as the mainstream media goes! Then, if everything went by numbers alone, one-seventh of the Wikipedia's content should have focussed on India, and about one-sixth on China. But we know that doesn't happen! So, we seem to be facing the pinch both ways! When it comes to non-inclusion, and when it comes to deletion.)
Also, what happens when a network is based outside of the "cities that matter"? Visibility is going to be a further issue, specially when communication is in, say, Spanish! It's hard for me to imagine how http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemencia_Rodriguez gets tagged for 'non-notability'. Either someone is misunderstanding things here, or the criteria is really bizarre. Take a look at the comment by BineMaya at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Clemencia_Rodriguez in response to this.
These are issues that those building alternatives have to face up to. We seem to be failing in reflecting diversity at a global scale. Are we even trying? FN
On 20/04/07, Angela beesley@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/20/07, Frederick Noronha fred@bytesforall.org wrote:
This page on a prominent alternate global media event is being called "blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OURMedia/NUESTROSMedios
I removed content on this from [[Ourmedia]] a year ago since the group had only 279 members and probably didn't deserve an article.
Angela
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Forwarding a discussion related to the English wikipedia. FN
This page on a prominent alternate global media event is being called "blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OURMedia/NUESTROSMedios To my mind, it is a listing of themes at the conference, and participants, together with some background (including past conferences) that led to the growth of the network. Could others please give their inputs on this? FN
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Frederick Noronha fred@bytesforall.org Date: 20-Apr-2007 11:17 Subject: Re: [Wikipedia-l] More on page deletions... To: wikipedia-l@lists.wikimedia.org
Numbers are important. But I don't think everything can be judged by numbers alone.
(Someone was asking on a journalism mailing list how 30+ US lives match up with 190+ in Iraq as far as the mainstream media goes! Then, if everything went by numbers alone, one-seventh of the Wikipedia's content should have focussed on India, and about one-sixth on China. But we know that doesn't happen! So, we seem to be facing the pinch both ways! When it comes to non-inclusion, and when it comes to deletion.)
Also, what happens when a network is based outside of the "cities that matter"? Visibility is going to be a further issue, specially when communication is in, say, Spanish! It's hard for me to imagine how http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clemencia_Rodriguez gets tagged for 'non-notability'. Either someone is misunderstanding things here, or the criteria is really bizarre. Take a look at the comment by BineMaya at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Clemencia_Rodriguez in response to this.
These are issues that those building alternatives have to face up to. We seem to be failing in reflecting diversity at a global scale. Are we even trying? FN
On 20/04/07, Angela beesley@gmail.com wrote:
On 4/20/07, Frederick Noronha fred@bytesforall.org wrote:
This page on a prominent alternate global media event is being called "blatant advertising for a company, product, group, service or person".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OURMedia/NUESTROSMedios
I removed content on this from [[Ourmedia]] a year ago since the group had only 279 members and probably didn't deserve an article.
Angela
-- FN M: 0091 9822122436 P: +91-832-240-9490 (after 1300IST please) http://fn.goa-india.org http://fredericknoronha.wordpress.com Konkani Wikipedia (under incubation) needs your help! http://incubator.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wp/kok