Erik wrote:
He is needed to allow us instant tempbans in case this particular policy is violated, which I think would be a useful option to have. There is almost no ambiguity in edit wars.
What punishment to invoke is a separate matter from the policy - yes. But we need to establish the policy first before we can punish people for violating it. There are now 30 in favor and 8 against the rule = 79% in favor. Assuming nobody votes against it, we still need two more votes in favor of the rule to reach 80%.
But a policy without teeth is a bit useless. I agree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:How_to_revert_a_page_to_an_earli...
-- mav
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Well, I just voted 'yes', because I think the rule is excellent.
As usual, I'll engage in a few more days of annoying thought about the matter before making any sort of proclamation linking this rule to short-term bans.
--Jimbo
Daniel Mayer wrote:
Erik wrote:
He is needed to allow us instant tempbans in case this particular policy is violated, which I think would be a useful option to have. There is almost no ambiguity in edit wars.
What punishment to invoke is a separate matter from the policy - yes. But we need to establish the policy first before we can punish people for violating it. There are now 30 in favor and 8 against the rule = 79% in favor. Assuming nobody votes against it, we still need two more votes in favor of the rule to reach 80%.
But a policy without teeth is a bit useless. I agree.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:How_to_revert_a_page_to_an_earli...
-- mav
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Jimmy Wales wrote:
Well, I just voted 'yes', because I think the rule is excellent.
As usual, I'll engage in a few more days of annoying thought about the matter before making any sort of proclamation linking this rule to short-term bans.
In the spirit of "soft security", I'd most prefer some sort of temporary article-level ban, where an article can be left unprotected but the edit-warriors banned from editing it for 24 hours. If they try to circumvent the ban (alternate accounts) or we have to chase them around various articles article-banning them, then a blanket ban from all editing could be instituted by any sysop (in my opinion). Perhaps we could come up with a fixed number, like 2 or 3, of articles they'd have to be article-banned on for edit-warring before they were banned completely for 24 hours.
While I'm generally wary of bans, I wouldn't see a problem with a procedure like that. Being banned from a single article for 24 hours is frankly not a huge deal, and if you're doing enough reverting to be article-banned on 2-3 articles, then you probably could do with a blanket 24-hour ban too.
-Mark
--- Delirium delirium@rufus.d2g.com wrote:
In the spirit of "soft security", I'd most prefer some sort of temporary article-level ban
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-Mark
I support this article-level ban proposal.
Optim
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