I have been having some problems that I do not understand -- I assume some people here are more experienced and knowledgeable about the technical workings of Wikipedia to figure it out.
I recently made an addition to the Supernaturalization talk page. I also made a comment on the Supernatural talk page. When I looked at my own "user contribution" page, next to the list of these most recent contributions was the word "rollback."
I went back to the articles and as "most recent changes" it had a deletion of the comments I added, and the user credited for the deletion was me, with the comments "reverted to last edit by Jackerie27" and "reverted to last edit by Mkmcconn.
I did not make these changes that are being ascribed to me, and I hope no one else is reverting them. It certainly seems strange that what I add to pages now seems to be deleted automatically, and I am being labeled the deleter. Is HAL 9000 acting up again?
Steve
Steven L. Rubenstein Assistant Professor Department of Sociology and Anthropology Bentley Annex Ohio University Athens, Ohio 45701
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Steve-
I did not make these changes that are being ascribed to me, and I hope no one else is reverting them. It certainly seems strange that what I add to pages now seems to be deleted automatically, and I am being labeled the deleter. Is HAL 9000 acting up again?
These are your sysop powers at work :-). Sysop have the ability to go into any user's contribution list, including their own, and "roll back" any user's edit of an article, so long as it is the most recent edit to that article (which the "top" marker refers to).
You have accidentally rolled back your own contribution to a previous revision. Don't worry, the rollback is only a shortcut to editing the previous version and saving it, so no data has been lost. Just edit the previous version and save it.
Regards,
Erik
Well, this is embarrassing! I guess if I had to shoot someone in the foot with my newfound powers, it's best I shot myself. (still, I could have sworn that the other times it happened, I hadn't hit "rollback").
Thanks for the explanations, and patience,
S
At 07:09 AM 5/13/2003 +0200, you wrote:
Steve-
I did not make these changes that are being ascribed to me, and I hope no one else is reverting them. It certainly seems strange that what I add to pages now seems to be deleted automatically, and I am being labeled the deleter. Is HAL 9000 acting up again?
These are your sysop powers at work :-). Sysop have the ability to go into any user's contribution list, including their own, and "roll back" any user's edit of an article, so long as it is the most recent edit to that article (which the "top" marker refers to).
You have accidentally rolled back your own contribution to a previous revision. Don't worry, the rollback is only a shortcut to editing the previous version and saving it, so no data has been lost. Just edit the previous version and save it.
Regards,
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On Mon, 2003-05-12 at 21:45, steven l. rubenstein wrote:
I have been having some problems that I do not understand -- I assume some people here are more experienced and knowledgeable about the technical workings of Wikipedia to figure it out.
I recently made an addition to the Supernaturalization talk page. I also made a comment on the Supernatural talk page. When I looked at my own "user contribution" page, next to the list of these most recent contributions was the word "rollback."
A 'rollback' link is displayed to sysops when viewing a contribs page for each edit which is the most recent edit to that article. Clicking it 'rolls back' the article, restoring the most recent edit by someone other than the last editor.
This is a standard sysop feature; it's meant as a handier way for undoing mass vandal attacks than click/history/click/edit/save.
I went back to the articles and as "most recent changes" it had a deletion of the comments I added, and the user credited for the deletion was me, with the comments "reverted to last edit by Jackerie27" and "reverted to last edit by Mkmcconn.
You clicked the 'rollback' link.
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
steven l. rubenstein wrote:
I have been having some problems that I do not understand -- I assume some people here are more experienced and knowledgeable about the technical workings of Wikipedia to figure it out.
I recently made an addition to the Supernaturalization talk page. I also made a comment on the Supernatural talk page. When I looked at my own "user contribution" page, next to the list of these most recent contributions was the word "rollback."
I went back to the articles and as "most recent changes" it had a deletion of the comments I added, and the user credited for the deletion was me, with the comments "reverted to last edit by Jackerie27" and "reverted to last edit by Mkmcconn.
I did not make these changes that are being ascribed to me, and I hope no one else is reverting them. It certainly seems strange that what I add to pages now seems to be deleted automatically, and I am being labeled the deleter. Is HAL 9000 acting up again?
I've had a couple of strange problems come up recently too
1. In editing the [[republic]] article I chose to split out a small note about Republic Aviation Company to its own stub. When I put the material I put the name of the company in bold. When I saved I received the message about there being no text on that page. In edit mode the text popped bnck up. I added the word "The" at the beginning of the article, and it saved just find. Apparently the system was in its own way rejecting an article that began with three apostrophes.
2. While doing some editing in Wiktionary moving one of the Intelingua index articles I created a non-eixtent article. It appears that when I moved the article I inadvertently entered a blank space at the beginning of the article. See Fonzy's talk page on Wiktionary for more details.
As for Steve's wanting to take on Lir's name, or being mistaken for him, it is worth noting that "lir" and "slr" already have two letters in common in their names. He's 2/3 of the way there! :-)
Ec
On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 01:50, Ray Saintonge wrote:
- In editing the [[republic]] article I chose to split out a small note
about Republic Aviation Company to its own stub. When I put the material I put the name of the company in bold. When I saved I received the message about there being no text on that page. In edit mode the text popped bnck up. I added the word "The" at the beginning of the article, and it saved just find.
I've been hearing a number of complaints recently about similar behavior (not properly reloading after saves, in particular). This sounds related to client-side caching; in particular those using proxy caches or whose internet providers force proxy caches upon them seem affected. There may be a difference in how the cache control headers are sent due to a recent PHP upgrade, but I haven't had a chance to check for sure yet.
- While doing some editing in Wiktionary moving one of the Intelingua
index articles I created a non-eixtent article. It appears that when I moved the article I inadvertently entered a blank space at the beginning of the article. See Fonzy's talk page on Wiktionary for more details.
Man, I don't know what's going on there. I'll look at it again when I'm not sleep-deprived. :)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
That happened to me once too, but I don't have a proxy (unless my ISP has one for some reason).
Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com wrote:On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 01:50, Ray Saintonge wrote:
- In editing the [[republic]] article I chose to split out a small note
about Republic Aviation Company to its own stub. When I put the material I put the name of the company in bold. When I saved I received the message about there being no text on that page. In edit mode the text popped bnck up. I added the word "The" at the beginning of the article, and it saved just find.
I've been hearing a number of complaints recently about similar behavior (not properly reloading after saves, in particular). This sounds related to client-side caching; in particular those using proxy caches or whose internet providers force proxy caches upon them seem affected. There may be a difference in how the cache control headers are sent due to a recent PHP upgrade, but I haven't had a chance to check for sure yet.
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On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 05:39, Daniel Ehrenberg wrote:
That happened to me once too, but I don't have a proxy (unless my ISP has one for some reason).
It's actually fairly common for ISPs to use transparent proxies to save money by moving a lot of duplicate web traffic to their internal network and thus reducing their Internet bandwidth usage.
You wouldn't even know it was there, unless of course it went horribly wrong and started eating pages. :)
-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
On 13 May 2003 10:14:34 -0700, Brion Vibber brion@pobox.com gave utterance to the following:
On Tue, 2003-05-13 at 05:39, Daniel Ehrenberg wrote:
That happened to me once too, but I don't have a proxy (unless my ISP has one for some reason).
It's actually fairly common for ISPs to use transparent proxies to save money by moving a lot of duplicate web traffic to their internal network and thus reducing their Internet bandwidth usage.
You wouldn't even know it was there, unless of course it went horribly wrong and started eating pages. :)
Or coughing up old pages 72 hours after I've uploaded a replacement, like my ISP's broadband proxy does from time to time. Their support staff tried to deny it existed at one point.