[[Template:Polemical userboxes]] may or may not be a candidate for T1 (I suspect that technicaly it is but the trouble caused by deleting it would be kinda not good). However it was listed on TFD. Fair enough considering some of the things that have turned up on AfD over the years it isn't the most extream.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/L...
[[User:MarkSweep]] then deleted the nomination. A bit of a streach of [[Wikipedia:Speedy keep]] but nothing particularly extream. Certianly no more extream than applying T1 to [[Template:Polemical userboxes]] (no don't worry I'm not going to).
[[User:MarkSweep]] then proceeds to block [[User:CFIF]] (the nominator) for 48 hours.
[[User:CFIF]] has 2269 edits with 1604 in the article namespace
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=CFIF&dbname...
He wasn't warned. We treat outright vandles better than that.
-- geni
geni wrote:
[[User:MarkSweep]] then deleted the nomination... [[User:MarkSweep]] then proceeds to block [[User:CFIF]] (the nominator) for 48 hours... He wasn't warned. We treat outright vandles better than that.
If that's what really happened, this is starting to really suck. I hate to sound like I'm siding with the userbox weenies (and I hate to use terms like "siding with" at all; factionalism is precisely what we're trying to *avoid* here), but I have to agree with the sentiment that this campaign against divisive userboxes is ending up being more divisive than the userboxes themselves. WP_IAR is one thing, but using it to quash dissenting voices in a retaliatory way (and especially when what the voices are dissenting against is a perception of that very kind of highhandedness) is a sure sign of incipient corruption, repression, and regression. We shouldn't be acting this way.
When Jimbo made one of the userbox-motivated-factionalism-is-bad- for-the-project statements which some admins are now hoisting up on pennants, I think he explicitly mentioned that he didn't want to see it get used as a battle-standard for a reign of terror. I don't know what all's going on over at TfD, but I would urge the admins to be as scrupulously diffident and fair in all of this as, for example, we expect editors to be when grappling over the POV issues in an article.
Steve Summit scs@eskimo.com
Did you tell Mark that?
On 2/20/06, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
[[Template:Polemical userboxes]] may or may not be a candidate for T1 (I suspect that technicaly it is but the trouble caused by deleting it would be kinda not good). However it was listed on TFD. Fair enough considering some of the things that have turned up on AfD over the years it isn't the most extream.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Templates_for_deletion/L...
[[User:MarkSweep]] then deleted the nomination. A bit of a streach of [[Wikipedia:Speedy keep]] but nothing particularly extream. Certianly no more extream than applying T1 to [[Template:Polemical userboxes]] (no don't worry I'm not going to).
[[User:MarkSweep]] then proceeds to block [[User:CFIF]] (the nominator) for 48 hours.
[[User:CFIF]] has 2269 edits with 1604 in the article namespace
http://tools.wikimedia.de/~interiot/cgi-bin/count_edits?user=CFIF&dbname...
He wasn't warned. We treat outright vandles better than that.
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There seems to be a lot of out-of-control behavior amongst administrators deleting userboxes.
On 2/20/06, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
Did you tell Mark that?
No most of my efforts were going into resiting the temptation to block him outright. -- geni
Don't we treat vandals better than that?
Steve
On 2/20/06, geni geniice@gmail.com wrote:
On 2/20/06, MacGyverMagic/Mgm macgyvermagic@gmail.com wrote:
Did you tell Mark that?
No most of my efforts were going into resiting the temptation to block him outright. -- geni _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l@Wikipedia.org To unsubscribe from this mailing list, visit: http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l
On 2/20/06, Steve Bennett stevage@gmail.com wrote:
Don't we treat vandals better than that?
Steve
Yes. But then I didn't do it.
-- geni