On 13/09/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
My heart bleeds for them. Really. http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?dist=newsfinder&siteid=...
And more: http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/060912-084125
Editors should watch carefully both for company shills and for unduly-weighted criticism.
- d.
On 9/13/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/09/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
My heart bleeds for them. Really.
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?dist=newsfinder&siteid=...
http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?dist=newsfinder&siteid=...
"Companies are wasting some of the millions of dollars spent each year to improve their visibility and ranking in search engines such as Google and Yahoo"
"Wikipedia should carve out an area on each page where brand managers can respond in an official capacity." - we do - it's called the Talk page
http://adage.com/article.php?article_id=111747
"the Wikipedia open-source phenomenon looms large right where companies are increasingly spending billions of dollars to jockey for position: on search-engine results pages."
Forgive my ignorance, but how do you spend billions on search engine optimisation? Who's ripping off these companies? In any case, doesn't Google improve its search algorithms as people get better at fooling them?
If you have millions to spend on something like that, why not spend it on making your website more useful and attractive? Or maybe make it easier to find the things you want? For a company with physical stores, the main reason I visit their websites is to check the hours on a local store, or to find a local store. That generally takes hunting around the small print, and then clicking a couple times. And that after waiting for all the flashy animation to load...and I have about as fast a connection as any average person.
Wikipedia is more useful for getting basic information about companies. If you don't want your customers seeing the good and the bad, one would think the place to start is on their own websites... but no, they want to spend their money fooling search engine algorithms. Are all companies run by idiots, or just most of them?
David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/09/06, David Gerard wrote:
My heart bleeds for them. Really. http://www.marketwatch.com/News/Story/Story.aspx?dist=newsfinder&siteid=...
And more: http://blog.searchenginewatch.com/blog/060912-084125
Editors should watch carefully both for company shills and for unduly-weighted criticism.
Hey, quit picking on good-faith shills. They're red-blooded human beings with feelings just like you. All they want is to do is help you make more informed decisions, just like PR people and people that want to know the stats on how many clicks external links get. It's all in your interest.
Be nice. My riends at http://www.connelldonatelli.com have friends at News Corp., who have friends in Australia that can help you with article maintenance.
~~Pro-Lick http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Halliburton_Shill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pro-Lick http://www.wikiality.net/index.php?title=User:Pro-Lick
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On Wed, 2006-09-13 at 13:11 -0700, Cheney Shill wrote:
Hey, quit picking on good-faith shills. They're red-blooded human beings with feelings just like you. All they want is to do is help you make more informed decisions, just like PR people and people that want to know the stats on how many clicks external links get. It's all in your interest.
Be nice. My riends at http://www.connelldonatelli.com have friends at News Corp., who have friends in Australia that can help you with article maintenance.
Can we keep the trolling off the mailing list, please?
On 13/09/06, Christopher Larberg christopherlarberg@gmail.com wrote:
Can we keep the trolling off the mailing list, please?
I assumed it was humour.
- d.
David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/09/06, Christopher Larberg wrote:
Can we keep the trolling off the mailing list, please?
I assumed it was humour.
Maybe satire, because I was somewhat serious. Anyway, I was attempting to bring together what may seem disconnected items involving promotions or public opinion massaging via wiki's trusted articles.
To help pull maybe the more obsure references together, a recent incident board item that didn't get discussed on the mailing list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Inciden...
An incident board item from last year: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Australian_Wikipedians%27_notice_boar...
~~Pro-Lick http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/User:Halliburton_Shill http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Pro-Lick http://www.wikiality.net/index.php?title=User:Pro-Lick
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No, this is a troll. [[User:Halliburton shill]]. Can't believe that guy's still around. Apparently he's indef blocked, too. http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Log&type=block&pag...
On 9/13/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
On 13/09/06, Christopher Larberg christopherlarberg@gmail.com wrote:
Can we keep the trolling off the mailing list, please?
I assumed it was humour.
- d.
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On 9/13/06, David Gerard dgerard@gmail.com wrote:
Editors should watch carefully both for company shills and for unduly-weighted criticism.
Here's one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Answers.com&oldid=73910181
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stevertigo something stvrtg@gmail.com wrote: On 9/13/06, David Gerard wrote:
Editors should watch carefully both for company shills and for unduly-weighted criticism.
Here's one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Answers.com&oldid=73910181
Wow, even the current answers page is using Wikipedia like billboard space. Logos and other brand name stuff should automatically be pushed down to a marketing section.
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