Jimbo wrote:
Our current article on Extra-Sensory Perception, for example, is quite bad. And the reason is precisely the lack of _credible_ sources. These exist, but the current article appears to be written by people who would prefer for these not to be named.
This is a problem we have with a certain class of articles.
Over at [[surrealism]], we have a determined edit warrior who has stated that "art historians are not qualified to write about surrealism," and "mainstream sources regarding surrealism are useless because they are written by art historians." So, well-researched contributions get shouted down and the article remains an embarrasment.
In like fashion, there is an ongoing edit war at [[cult]], with one side maintaining that peer-reviewed articles about cults written by sociologists merely parrot the views of the "anti-cult movement," which they characterize as fringe. I cleaned up the article some time ago and added some well-referenced material, which is now gone; the references themselves are orphaned at the end of the article amidst a sea of links to cult-sponsored and cult-apoligist sites.
Some of the alternative medicine articles have the same problems.
The difficulty is political. The people who care deeply about [[surrealism]], and [[cult]], and ESP are willing to expend considerable effort and political capital to get their way, while for me, each is merely one of many interests.
uninvited@nerstrand.net wrote:
The difficulty is political. The people who care deeply about [[surrealism]], and [[cult]], and ESP are willing to expend considerable effort and political capital to get their way, while for me, each is merely one of many interests.
I acknowledge this as a difficult with our current practices.
There was recently a vote (which didn't get anywhere and for good reasons I think) to stop anons from being able to edit. But anon edits are generally not the problem -- it's dedicated POV pushers.
But dealing with dedicated POV pushers is quite difficult to reconcile with fairness and neutrality. If we get into a mode of kicking people out for pushing a POV, we run the risk of kicking people out who contradict *our* POV.
There is therefore no magic bullet solution to the problem. But, there being no magic bullet is not the same as saying that there is no solution possible.
I just don't have any magical answers, and I don't think any of us do. But we shouldn't just give up on quality in these areas.
--Jimbo