Hello all. I am writing to this list because I believe the blocking policy was violated for my account. Admin Nlu blocked my account due to "personal attack". However, there was no such attack whatsoever. I had comments on my front page stating, in my opinion, admins who I thought were doing a good job and admins who were not. Can anyone look into this for me? In advance, I greatly appreciate anyone's assistance.
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Mel Gibson wrote:
Hello all. I am writing to this list because I believe the blocking policy was violated for my account. Admin Nlu blocked my account due to "personal attack". However, there was no such attack whatsoever. I had comments on my front page stating, in my opinion, admins who I thought were doing a good job and admins who were not. Can anyone look into this for me? In advance, I greatly appreciate anyone's assistance.
What account name? Could you link to the block log for the account name in question?
Chris
On 3/20/06, Chris Jenkinson chris@starglade.org wrote:
What account name? Could you link to the block log for the account name in question?
Just a thought: if something's more than a day or so old, it has probably already expired. I also doubt all these users are necessarily subscribed.
-- Sam
Sam Korn wrote:
Just a thought: if something's more than a day or so old, it has probably already expired. I also doubt all these users are necessarily subscribed.
What's the point in approving them then?
Chris
On 3/20/06, Chris Jenkinson chris@starglade.org wrote:
Sam Korn wrote:
Just a thought: if something's more than a day or so old, it has probably already expired. I also doubt all these users are necessarily subscribed.
What's the point in approving them then?
Some of them might be worth reading, I don't know. I'll leave it open to the floor.
-- Sam
On 20/03/06, Chris Jenkinson chris@starglade.org wrote:
What's the point in approving them then?
It's easier for a list admin to blanket-approve all 30 or so on-topic, non-spam emails among the thousand or so spam messages than to check each individual email for its continuing relevance to mailing list conversations.
~Mark Ryan
The account name is Marcyu and can be seen at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Marcyu&action=edit
Admin Nlu claims a personal attack, but he deleted the page permanently so there is no evidence against the contrary.
-Marc
From: Chris Jenkinson chris@starglade.org Reply-To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking policy violation Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 00:31:49 +0000
Mel Gibson wrote:
Hello all. I am writing to this list because I believe the blocking policy was violated for my account. Admin Nlu blocked my account due to "personal attack". However, there was no such attack whatsoever. I had comments on my front page stating, in my opinion, admins who I thought were doing a good job and admins who were not. Can anyone look into this for me? In advance, I greatly appreciate anyone's assistance.
What account name? Could you link to the block log for the account name in question?
Chris
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G'day Marcyu,
The account name is Marcyu and can be seen at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Marcyu&action=edit
Admin Nlu claims a personal attack, but he deleted the page permanently so there is no evidence against the contrary.
Ach, that's where you're wrong. The page hasn't been deleted permanently, and it's still possible to view what you said. Let's take a look ...
I have decided to become the self-proclaimed policeman of these out of control Wikipedia editors. They have no sense of tolerance, diversity, or humility. Their grammatical and editing skills are suspect, to say the least.
You then added a template to your userpage, requesting that it be deleted. Finally, and this is just delicious:
In my own personal opinion and experiences, I have found the following admins to be extremely biased, immature, and unprofessional:
[[User:Nlu|Nlu]]<br> [[User:R._Koot|R._Koot]]
Email me if you want me to add your name to this page as those who support the cause of having a voting method to revoke admin powers of certain users. Also email me if you have another admin you would like to add to either list (see below) and I'll take a look at their history.
And on the flip side, here is a list of admins I believe to be fair and level-headed:
[[User:Android79|Android79]]<br> [[User:Dave_souza|Dave_souza]]
Congratulations to android79 and Dave for making the cut, for what it's worth. I'm kinda baffled that you'd say "so-and-so is extremely biased, immature, and unprofessional", and *then* have the hide to claim that any block or deletion was unjustified.
I guess you'd hoped that Nlu had covered up not his own actions, but yours.
-- Mark Gallagher "What? I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!" - Danger Mouse
Do the aforementioned comments constitute a personal attack? As noted, I am merely stating my opinion.
-Marc
From: Mark Gallagher m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au Reply-To: m.g.gallagher@student.canberra.edu.au,English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org To: English Wikipedia wikien-l@Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Blocking policy violation Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2006 14:26:55 +1100>
G'day Marcyu,
The account name is Marcyu and can be seen at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Marcyu&action=edit
Admin Nlu claims a personal attack, but he deleted the page permanently so there is no evidence against the contrary.
Ach, that's where you're wrong. The page hasn't been deleted permanently, and it's still possible to view what you said. Let's take a look ...
I have decided to become the self-proclaimed policeman of these out of control Wikipedia editors. They have no sense of tolerance, diversity, or humility. Their grammatical and editing skills are suspect, to say the least.
You then added a template to your userpage, requesting that it be deleted. Finally, and this is just delicious:
In my own personal opinion and experiences, I have found the following admins to be extremely biased, immature, and unprofessional:
[[User:Nlu|Nlu]]<br> [[User:R._Koot|R._Koot]]
Email me if you want me to add your name to this page as those who support the cause of having a voting method to revoke admin powers of certain users. Also email me if you have another admin you would like to add to either list (see below) and I'll take a look at their history.
And on the flip side, here is a list of admins I believe to be fair and level-headed:
[[User:Android79|Android79]]<br> [[User:Dave_souza|Dave_souza]]
Congratulations to android79 and Dave for making the cut, for what it's worth. I'm kinda baffled that you'd say "so-and-so is extremely biased, immature, and unprofessional", and *then* have the hide to claim that any block or deletion was unjustified.
I guess you'd hoped that Nlu had covered up not his own actions, but yours.
-- Mark Gallagher "What? I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!"
- Danger Mouse
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G'day Mercyu,
Do the aforementioned comments constitute a personal attack? As noted, I am merely stating my opinion.
Yes, "so-and-so is extremely biased, immature, and unprofessional" does indeed constitute a personal attack. *Any* statement, however incivil, however personal, could be described as "merely stating [one's] opinion", so that won't get you anywhere.
-- Mark Gallagher "What? I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!" - Danger Mouse
On 3/20/06, Mel Gibson mel_gibson_@hotmail.com wrote:
Do the aforementioned comments constitute a personal attack?
Yes.
Theresa
Mel Gibson wrote:
The account name is Marcyu and can be seen at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Marcyu&action=edit
Admin Nlu claims a personal attack, but he deleted the page permanently so there is no evidence against the contrary.
Given that Nlu saw http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SPUI&diff=44465982&a... as a personal attack, I'd take his claim with a grain of salt.
G'day SPUI,
Mel Gibson wrote:
The account name is Marcyu and can be seen at:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Marcyu&action=edit
Admin Nlu claims a personal attack, but he deleted the page permanently so there is no evidence against the contrary.
Given that Nlu saw http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:SPUI&diff=44465982&a... as a personal attack, I'd take his claim with a grain of salt.
Uhh, but we *know* what Marcyu said, and it wasn't "your mother". See further on in the thread.
And don't be so snide. There's people as can pull it off, and people as can't.
Cheers,
-- Mark Gallagher "What? I can't hear you, I've got a banana on my head!" - Danger Mouse