-----Original Message----- From: Daniel R. Tobias [mailto:dan@tobias.name] Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 04:25 PM To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"onattackkk site link policy
On 2 Jul 2007 at 13:07:46 +0000, "Fred Bauder" fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
I did originate it though and am not intimidated. I shudder to contemplate what Mr. Goodman wants for Wikipedia. If a pack of dogs fall on someone after he and his ilk are in control, I guess we will simply be obligated to stand by and do nothing.
The "pack of dogs" I see is the clique that's pushing the link ban, and ganging up on anybody who doesn't go along with it (such as, for instance, torpedoing their RfA nominations). You're one of the big dogs in that pack. It's precisely because I believe in standing up to bullies that I'm opposing you on this.
But what exactly are you opposing? The original decision made in MONGO which applies to the one drama site, or the attempts to make a general policy out of the principles expressed?
The only link ban I push is the one remedy in MONGO which applies only to ED. I would discourage attempts to broaden that to most other critical sites.
Fred
On 7/2/07, Fred Bauder fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
-----Original Message----- From: Daniel R. Tobias [mailto:dan@tobias.name] Sent: Monday, July 2, 2007 04:25 PM To: wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] FredBauder"clarifies"onattackkk site link policy
On 2 Jul 2007 at 13:07:46 +0000, "Fred Bauder" fredbaud@waterwiki.info wrote:
I did originate it though and am not intimidated. I shudder to contemplate what Mr. Goodman wants for Wikipedia. If a pack of dogs fall on someone after he and his ilk are in control, I guess we will simply be obligated to stand by and do nothing.
The "pack of dogs" I see is the clique that's pushing the link ban, and ganging up on anybody who doesn't go along with it (such as, for instance, torpedoing their RfA nominations). You're one of the big dogs in that pack. It's precisely because I believe in standing up to bullies that I'm opposing you on this.
But what exactly are you opposing? The original decision made in MONGO which applies to the one drama site, or the attempts to make a general policy out of the principles expressed?
The only link ban I push is the one remedy in MONGO which applies only to ED. I would discourage attempts to broaden that to most other critical sites.
Fred
Perhaps you forget these statements Fred:
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Requests_for_arbitr... http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia_talk:Attack_sites&di...
There's no need to apologize for them either, as you were right.
Jay.