I have been looking over a number of items having to do with educational methods. There are a few items that I think would benefit from illustrations of the methodologies, and I've found some examples, labelled with 'materials may be reproduced for educational purposes.' They are the sort of thing where in the course of a 10 page lesson plan, there's one page for photocopying for distribution, where they have relinquished some rights (but nothing clear like a CC license).
Does an encylopedia count as an educational purpose (or, I should say, for a declaration like that, does Wikipedia count in the eyes of the law as educational)?
S.
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Stephanie Clarkson < thespian@sleepingcat.com> wrote:
I have been looking over a number of items having to do with educational methods. There are a few items that I think would benefit from illustrations of the methodologies, and I've found some examples, labelled with 'materials may be reproduced for educational purposes.' They are the sort of thing where in the course of a 10 page lesson plan, there's one page for photocopying for distribution, where they have relinquished some rights (but nothing clear like a CC license).
Does an encylopedia count as an educational purpose (or, I should say, for a declaration like that, does Wikipedia count in the eyes of the law as educational)?
S.
I'd say very likely yes. However we have our own rules and licensing. Except for the limited exception for fair use images, Wikipedia content has to be freely re-usable by anyone for anything regardless of whether it's educational or commercial.
Elias Friedman A.S., EMT-P ⚕ אליהו מתתיהו בן צבי elipongo@gmail.com http://elipongo.blogspot.com/
Definitely not, in our case. Nonprofit educational purposes are a standard fair use of copyrighted material. Wikipedia has no control over downstream commercial uses. That's why we can't accept any of the Creative Commons NC licenses, and similar reasoning applies here. Beware the distinction between generous republication permission of copyrighted and actual relicensure: republication permission is revocable; relicensure isn't.
So, sadly, a lot of things we'd really like to use have to be quoted in small bits or uploaded with nonfree media use rationales, or else passed up entirely.
-Durova
On Mon, Feb 23, 2009 at 10:55 PM, Elias Friedman elipongo@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2009 at 1:34 AM, Stephanie Clarkson < thespian@sleepingcat.com> wrote:
I have been looking over a number of items having to do with educational methods. There are a few items that I think would benefit from illustrations of the methodologies, and I've found some examples, labelled with 'materials may be reproduced for educational purposes.' They are the sort of thing where in the course of a 10 page lesson plan, there's one page for photocopying for distribution, where they have relinquished some rights (but nothing clear like a CC license).
Does an encylopedia count as an educational purpose (or, I should say, for a declaration like that, does Wikipedia count in the eyes of the law as educational)?
S.
I'd say very likely yes. However we have our own rules and licensing. Except for the limited exception for fair use images, Wikipedia content has to be freely re-usable by anyone for anything regardless of whether it's educational or commercial.
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I think you should ask the author of the license and perhaps ask for By Attribution and ShareAlike. Many educators hav seen good, and expensive packages and they would therefore feel used if a commercial interest appropriated stuff provided for nothing. Under ShareAlike, once someone bought the package, they would also be buying at cost reproduction rights, because the commercial interest would hav to indicate their source, somewhere.
It actually puts quite a reservation in the commercial interest. If the materials are really good, then they'll wonder if promotional efforts will be contagious and by that limit how long the materials are commercially viable.
The makers of Berkeley Standard Distribution (BSD) did not think that way (commercial use allowed), so now, much of their code is incorporated into Macs, so that Macs run on a popular cousin of UNIX (TM). A lot of programmers were probably thinking that donations would go to their school, and even if not, well, it is internet infrastructure to be proud of.
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I have been looking over a number of items having to do with educational methods. There are a few items that I think would benefit from illustrations of the methodologies, and I've found some examples, labelled with 'materials may be reproduced for educational purposes.' They are the sort of thing where in the course of a 10 page lesson plan, there's one page for photocopying for distribution, where they have relinquished some rights (but nothing clear like a CC license).
Does an encylopedia count as an educational purpose (or, I should say, for a declaration like that, does Wikipedia count in the eyes of the law as educational)?
S.
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