I already have looked at the Sollog wikipedia article, and I commented on it later.
All in all, the "wikipedia sucks" site is a hate site, in which some aspects of Jimbo's Bomis site that I had not been aware of have been highlighted, together with a lot of hysteria about a 10 million dollar fine (that seems to have no legal validity at all).
There seems to be nothing we can do about it, either, unless some mediation for this guy can somehow be arranged. (Are there any alternate ideas?)
If some had been arranged for this fellow earlier, this anti-wikipedia site MAY have been avoided.
On-the-spot mediation/arbitration is something that could also be applied for other edit wars, for which the 3R rule is not a solution.
Arno
----- Original Message ----- From: "csherlock@ljh.com.au" csherlock@ljh.com.au To: wikien-l@wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: A nasty and weird site Date: Mon, 07 Mar 2005 09:55:50 +1100
Arno M wrote:
Here's a site that is rather critical of wikipedia. In fact, its very critical. http://www.wikipediasucks.com/
Some interesting popups appear when you leave the site which perhaps indicate what its worth. Its claim that "There are now thousands of pages if you search for 'wikipedia sucks' in any search engine." is wrong - the supplied does a google search for pages with the words wikipedia or sucks, which not surprisingly does yield thousands of results. But a search for the phrase brings out 149 instead. And whats all this about Sollog, the Temple of 'Hayah, and a $10 million fine for "religious hate crimes"? Bizarre! However, I do feel compelled to ask : who are those cute young friends on the yacht with Jimbo?
As noone seems to have answered this to any degree of satisfaction (except for the answer about the babe), I recommend that Arno check out [[Sollog]]. That's who runs the site.
TBSDY
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On Mon, 07 Mar 2005 12:35:40 +0600, Arno M redgum46@lycos.com wrote:
If some had been arranged for this fellow [Sollog] earlier, this anti-wikipedia site MAY have been avoided.
I highly doubt it. This individual's behavior in other forums before, including Usenet (where he was branded "Kook of the month") and the courts, does not encourage any believe in his ability to work well with others or stand a neutral view of himself.
Some people are incorrigible. Yes, many can be reached, but not all.
-Matt (User:Morven)
From: Matt Brown morven@gmail.com
Some people are incorrigible. Yes, many can be reached, but not all.
This is an important point that is often overlooked by idealists. There *are* people who are long time disruptive influences and who *cannot* be reached by any sort of reasoning, Wikilove, mediation, etc.
Jay.
Arno M said:
If some had been arranged for this fellow earlier, this anti-wikipedia site MAY have been avoided.
I don't think you understand the situation. Sollog is a nutcase with a track record of acting like this. He's a loony and nothing on that site reflects badly on Wikipedia.
Arno M wrote:
There seems to be nothing we can do about it, either, unless some mediation for this guy can somehow be arranged. (Are there any alternate ideas?)
If some had been arranged for this fellow earlier, this anti-wikipedia site MAY have been avoided.
I think that one way of reading this suggests a typo on Arno's part. He may have just missed typing a "c" in the middle of "mediation" :-)
Ec