On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:42:13 +0530, Rohan Sharma gates.plusplus@gmail.com wrote:
On the message-changing: I don't know, I take it this that has not been a common issue?
Well, as you said in your original mail, there aren't many places in the world which *require* anything other than a number of hours. I've certainly never come across anyone else *mentionning* the problem/confusion, but it's hard to tell how many people will have shrugged and assumed it's not possible.
Since it *is* possible, though, and since, according to Tim, you can enter "1.5", which is still a "number of hours", I'd say it's not exactly a high priority to change the message.
Rowan Collins wrote:
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 17:42:13 +0530, Rohan Sharma gates.plusplus@gmail.com wrote:
On the message-changing: I don't know, I take it this that has not been a common issue?
Well, as you said in your original mail, there aren't many places in the world which *require* anything other than a number of hours. I've certainly never come across anyone else *mentionning* the problem/confusion, but it's hard to tell how many people will have shrugged and assumed it's not possible.
I've long noticed that when websites let you choose a UTC offset, there's frequently no provision for going in anything other than one-hour increments. I'd imagine that Newfies and the like may be prone to assuming they can't enter something other than a number of hours, especially when the text on the page implies they can't.
Since it *is* possible, though, and since, according to Tim, you can enter "1.5", which is still a "number of hours", I'd say it's not exactly a high priority to change the message.
Unless you're a programmer, you're unlikely to think of "1.5" when told "a number of hours", especially if you're used to dealing with poorly-written and <somecountry>-specific software that breaks if you treat it as remotely intelligent (see also: most web applications).
I think the message should be changed to "amount of time (hh:mm)", which is both more correct and more explicit.
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 08:41:14 -0800, Nicholas Knight nknight@runawaynet.com wrote:
I've long noticed that when websites let you choose a UTC offset, there's frequently no provision for going in anything other than one-hour increments. I'd imagine that Newfies and the like may be prone to assuming they can't enter something other than a number of hours, especially when the text on the page implies they can't.
That's a very good point. Few though they are, it would be nice to make things obvious for the newbies from those parts of the world which have non-integer time zones.
Unless you're a programmer, you're unlikely to think of "1.5" when told "a number of hours"
Yes, that particular comment was bordering on the facetious/pedantic - most people will likely assume "a number of hours" means the same as "a whole number of hours", as that's how it's generally used.
I think the message should be changed to "amount of time (hh:mm)", which is both more correct and more explicit.
That would be better, yes. As I say, low priority, but in an ideal world it would be like that (as Tim points out, getting *all* the translations up-dated is hard work).
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A far higher priority, just to plug it to anybody who fancies correcting some, are all the messages that have blatantly incorrect information about clearing/by-passing your cache (e.g. 'clearyourcache', 'usercsspreview', 'userjspreview') - currently, most messages give key combinations for *normal* refreshes, rather than for *forced* refreshes, which are necessary for clearing the cache in these circumstances.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_talk:Clearyourcache for links to the relevant information. And if anyone can shed light on exactly how Opera behaves in this respect, please explain on that talk page...