I like having credit right at the article level. This is the typical thing I see in print media (obviously as there is no other level). Are you stating that this was discussed before and rejected? It's what I was thinking might be a good way of getting more photo contributions. Just give credit as a byline under the picture. Even include a link at the credit line to an article on the photographer if one exists. To me credit, isn't advertising. It's just attribution.
For example, in-article we give credit to quotations of text and those can lead directly to the sale of a book by direct links, without the reader needing to know that clicking an obscure item, like a picture, might lead somewhere else.
Will Johnson
In a message dated 7/20/2009 10:36:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, carcharothwp@googlemail.com writes:
How many people click through to the image itself? That is where the credit is, and the link onwards to the source. Would it help if the source (if it was an institution, rather than an individual photographer) was automagically credited in the articles, not just on the image page? Or would that be the thin end of a wedge and be seen as overt advertising? There are some photographer names that will never be suitable to be treated this way, but if doing this for reputable organisations made it more likely they would donate images, is it worth looking at it again?
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It has been discussed before. Can't remember where or the verdict. Hopefully someone else will find the debate, and the latest form of it.
OK, here are some:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_25#P...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(proposals)/Archive_25#R....
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Village_pump_(policy)/Archive_44#Phot...
Found by using Wikipedia's internal search function. Search terms like "image credit" and "caption credit" will find most of them. Probably similar debates on Commons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Captions
This guideline page says (at the bottom):
Credits: "Unless relevant to the subject, do not credit the image author or copyright holder in the article. It is assumed that this is not necessary to fulfill attribution requirements of the GFDL or Creative Commons licenses as long as the appropriate credit is on the image description page."
I would suggest looking in the talk page archives for more.
Carcharoth
On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:41 PM, WJhonson@aol.com wrote:
I like having credit right at the article level. This is the typical thing I see in print media (obviously as there is no other level). Are you stating that this was discussed before and rejected? It's what I was thinking might be a good way of getting more photo contributions. Just give credit as a byline under the picture. Even include a link at the credit line to an article on the photographer if one exists. To me credit, isn't advertising. It's just attribution.
For example, in-article we give credit to quotations of text and those can lead directly to the sale of a book by direct links, without the reader needing to know that clicking an obscure item, like a picture, might lead somewhere else.
Will Johnson
In a message dated 7/20/2009 10:36:10 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, carcharothwp@googlemail.com writes:
How many people click through to the image itself? That is where the credit is, and the link onwards to the source. Would it help if the source (if it was an institution, rather than an individual photographer) was automagically credited in the articles, not just on the image page? Or would that be the thin end of a wedge and be seen as overt advertising? There are some photographer names that will never be suitable to be treated this way, but if doing this for reputable organisations made it more likely they would donate images, is it worth looking at it again?
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On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 6:57 PM, Carcharothcarcharothwp@googlemail.com wrote:
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I would suggest looking in the talk page archives for more.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Captions#Credits_of_photos.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Captions#Image_credits_.28in_cap...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:Captions#Image_credits_in_captio...
No archive for that talk page yet. When one is created, the above links will break.
Carcharoth