By popular demand, I've finally created an essay that's sometimes been referenced in discussion even though it has, until now, not existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SAUCE
WP:SAUCE or Wikipedia:Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander
But is it a *reliable* sauce?
Unsure this is helpful. At one level it's the same idea as "pot meet kettle", but such essays have the potential to be used as modes of attack (eg, ignoring valid points in the argument, in favor of an argument over hypocrisy).
Take a look at [[WP:KETTLE]] for an essay which makes the same point, but in a way that nudges both sides to de-escalate and tells both "this is lame". Its an aspect worth considering. Sauce for the goose is going to imply much more, "they do it so I can too", which isn't a good thing to suggest.
FT2
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
By popular demand, I've finally created an essay that's sometimes been referenced in discussion even though it has, until now, not existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SAUCE
WP:SAUCE or Wikipedia:Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander
But is it a *reliable* sauce?
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Surely what you mean is "Sauce for the goose is NOT sauce for the gander"...?
FT2
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 5:56 AM, FT2 ft2.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Unsure this is helpful. At one level it's the same idea as "pot meet kettle", but such essays have the potential to be used as modes of attack (eg, ignoring valid points in the argument, in favor of an argument over hypocrisy).
Take a look at [[WP:KETTLE]] for an essay which makes the same point, but in a way that nudges both sides to de-escalate and tells both "this is lame". Its an aspect worth considering. Sauce for the goose is going to imply much more, "they do it so I can too", which isn't a good thing to suggest.
FT2
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 4:01 AM, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
By popular demand, I've finally created an essay that's sometimes been referenced in discussion even though it has, until now, not existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SAUCE
WP:SAUCE or Wikipedia:Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander
But is it a *reliable* sauce?
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On 10/8/08, FT2 ft2.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Surely what you mean is "Sauce for the goose is NOT sauce for the gander"...?
I think that's the point. Look closely at the ingredients. The gander sauce does not contain citric acid for example.
A wider variation would make this clearer though.
—C.W.
On 10/7/08, FT2 ft2.wiki@gmail.com wrote:
Take a look at [[WP:KETTLE]] for an essay which makes the same point, but in a way that nudges both sides to de-escalate and tells both "this is lame". Its an aspect worth considering. Sauce for the goose is going to imply much more, "they do it so I can too", which isn't a good thing to suggest.
Nah, there's a difference. The pot/kettle thing is about criticizing others in ways which apply equally if not moreso to yourself.
Dan's essay is about double standards in general. A couple of the examples could be covered on both pages, but hypocrisy has more flavors than Baskin-Robbins and none of us are even scratching the surface as yet.
—C.W.
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
By popular demand, I've finally created an essay that's sometimes been referenced in discussion even though it has, until now, not existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SAUCE
WP:SAUCE or Wikipedia:Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander
But is it a *reliable* sauce?
-- == Dan ==
While it is nice to know that Wikipedia brand Goose and Gander Sauce is Kosher (and pareve), it might be an issue to have the registered trademark of the Kof-K in userspace. You might want to correct that part of your image.
On Wed, Oct 8, 2008 at 10:04 AM, Elias Friedman elipongo@gmail.com wrote:
On Tue, Oct 7, 2008 at 11:01 PM, Daniel R. Tobias dan@tobias.name wrote:
By popular demand, I've finally created an essay that's sometimes been referenced in discussion even though it has, until now, not existed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:SAUCE
WP:SAUCE or Wikipedia:Sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander
But is it a *reliable* sauce?
-- == Dan ==
While it is nice to know that Wikipedia brand Goose and Gander Sauce is Kosher (and pareve), it might be an issue to have the registered trademark of the Kof-K in userspace. You might want to correct that part of your image.
Sorry, I meant in *Project* space. Not in an article anyways...