New user, blocked indefinitely?

List overview All Threads
Download

newer

older

Re: Proposal: Requests for rollback

Homeopathy and syllogism

Kurita Ryohan

29 Jun 2005 29 Jun '05

4:19 p.m.

Can someone please tell me what I have done wrong? So far I have edited only a few articles. I cleaned up a vandal at SNES and added a small section to NES. I added an article and image for the Eyeshield 21 anime and added a link to the manga's page. I read the primer sent to me by Spangineer and the Wikipedia policy pages. I became involved in the discussion at Jihad because it seems to show up a lot, and I tried to calm it down by removing some personal attacks. I removed personal attacks from the discussion by striking them through because policy on Remove Personal Attacks says that we're supposed to refactor without removing the context. I thought that would be the best way to do it. I got a bunch of nasty messages back claiming that my removal of personal messages was "vandalism" when it's clearly policy to remove them. Now an admin named Carbonite has blocked me indefinitely claiming I am a sockpuppet of someone named Enviroknot. Carbonite isn't responding to my emails. Can someone please explain this? Thanks, Kurita77 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Show replies by date

Kurita Ryohan

29 Jun 29 Jun

4:44 p.m.

Will someone give me a response? Please? None of the admins I have emailed have responded. This is frightening. The way you people act is directly contrary to the literature Spangineer sent me. Kurita77

...

From: "Kurita Ryohan" <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:19:39 -0500 Can someone please tell me what I have done wrong? So far I have edited only a few articles. I cleaned up a vandal at SNES and added a small section to NES. I added an article and image for the Eyeshield 21 anime and added a link to the manga's page. I read the primer sent to me by Spangineer and the Wikipedia policy pages. I became involved in the discussion at Jihad because it seems to show up a lot, and I tried to calm it down by removing some personal attacks. I removed personal attacks from the discussion by striking them through because policy on Remove Personal Attacks says that we're supposed to refactor without removing the context. I thought that would be the best way to do it. I got a bunch of nasty messages back claiming that my removal of personal messages was "vandalism" when it's clearly policy to remove them. Now an admin named Carbonite has blocked me indefinitely claiming I am a sockpuppet of someone named Enviroknot. Carbonite isn't responding to my emails. Can someone please explain this? Thanks, Kurita77 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Habj

4:49 p.m.

While I know nothing about your case - and not personally will dig into it - I think it takes more than 25 minutes to check the background to your story... give it a little time. /Habj On 6/29/05, Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

...

added a small section to NES. I added an article and image for the Eyeshield 21 anime and added a link to the manga's page. I read the primer

sent to me by Spangineer and the Wikipedia policy pages. I became involved

in the discussion at Jihad because it seems to show up a lot, and I tried to calm it down by removing some personal attacks. I removed personal attacks from the discussion by striking them through because policy on Remove Personal Attacks says that we're supposed to refactor without removing the context. I thought that would be the best way

to do it. I got a bunch of nasty messages back claiming that my removal of personal messages was "vandalism" when it's clearly policy to remove them. Now an admin named Carbonite has blocked me indefinitely claiming I am a sockpuppet of someone named Enviroknot. Carbonite isn't responding to my emails. Can someone please explain this? Thanks, Kurita77 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE!

http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Fred Bauder

4:48 p.m.

Seems to be a sockpuppet of Enviroknot, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Talk:Jihad&diff=17828932&oldid=17827080 Fred On Jun 29, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Kurita Ryohan wrote:

...

Kurita Ryohan

4:50 p.m.

I keep seeing that word, what is a sockpuppet? And why are you people so hostile? Kurita77

...

From: Fred Bauder <fredbaud(a)ctelco.net> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:48:56 -0600 Seems to be a sockpuppet of Enviroknot, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Talk:Jihad&diff=17828932&oldid=17827080 Fred On Jun 29, 2005, at 10:19 AM, Kurita Ryohan wrote:

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

fun＠thingy.apana.org.au

4:51 p.m.

Fred Bauder (fredbaud(a)ctelco.net) [050630 02:49]:

...

Seems to be a sockpuppet of Enviroknot, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Talk:Jihad&diff=17828932&oldid=17827080

Kurita Ryohan

4:54 p.m.

Will someone PLEASE explain to me what is going on? I can't understand why you people are acting this way. Kurita77

...

From: fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au (David Gerard) Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:51:54 +1000 Fred Bauder (fredbaud(a)ctelco.net) [050630 02:49]:

Seems to be a sockpuppet of Enviroknot, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Talk:Jihad&diff=17828932&oldid=17827080

CheckUser doesn't appear to be switched on for me in 1.5 as yet, or I'd go look. I'll ask for it to be switched back on once the devs have the bugs from the 1.5 beta under control, and I'm back on IRC ;-) - d. _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Kurita Ryohan

5:03 p.m.

Please. Someone. ANYONE. We're supposed to be bold when editing but then we get indefinitely blocked? Why are you doing this to me? Why are you refusing to respond? Why am I getting nothing but nasty emails accusing me of being someone else? Kurita77

...

From: "Kurita Ryohan" <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:54:57 -0500 Will someone PLEASE explain to me what is going on? I can't understand why you people are acting this way. Kurita77

Seems to be a sockpuppet of Enviroknot, see http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? title=Talk:Jihad&diff=17828932&oldid=17827080

_________________________________________________________________ FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now! http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

Pat Carr

5:25 p.m.

Here's a synopsis of Kurita77's contributions at Wikipedia: 1st edit: His first edit was made within minutes of Enviroknot being blocked for violating the ArbCom injunction. 2nd edit: Quoted Enviroknot and struck-out many of BrandonYusufToropov's comments. Kurita77 used also editing features such as section headings and bold text. 6th edit: Began lecturing Brandon on "No Personal Attacks". Again struck-out several of Brandon's comments. 10th edit: Again lectured about "No Personal Attacks". 16th-18th edits: Uploaded an image of "Eyeshield 21". Added a disambiguation link to the Eyeshield article. In an email he sent to me, Kurita77 claimed that this article brought him here. 20th edits: Posted a message on Brandon's talk page referencing several Wikipedia policies and instructing Brandon to "calm down". 22nd edit: Posted a question on AN/3RR. All of the above happened in less than 3 hours. It's crystal clear that Kurita == Environknot. --- Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

...

From: "Kurita Ryohan" <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia

<wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>

To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked

indefinitely?

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 11:54:57 -0500 Will someone PLEASE explain to me what is going on?

I can't understand why

you people are acting this way. Kurita77 >From: fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au (David Gerard) >Reply-To: English Wikipedia

<wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>

>To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> >Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked

indefinitely?

>Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2005 02:51:54 +1000 > >Fred Bauder (fredbaud(a)ctelco.net) [050630 02:49]: > > > Seems to be a sockpuppet of Enviroknot, see > > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > > title=Talk:Jihad&diff=17828932&oldid=17827080 > > >CheckUser doesn't appear to be switched on for me

in 1.5 as yet, or I'd go

>look. I'll ask for it to be switched back on once

the devs have the bugs

>from the 1.5 beta under control, and I'm back on

IRC ;-)

> > >- d. > > > >_______________________________________________ >WikiEN-l mailing list >WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org

http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________

Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger!

Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________

...

FREE pop-up blocking with the new MSN Toolbar get it now!

http://toolbar.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200415ave/direct/01/

...

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

__________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html

Kurita Ryohan

5:36 p.m.

Why do you keep attacking me?

...

1st edit: His first edit was made within minutes of Enviroknot being blocked for violating the ArbCom injunction.

Is it against policy to edit at certain times of day? People edit all the time from what I understand. I got up this morning, signed in, and created my account after reading all the stuff on how to edit.

...

2nd edit: Quoted Enviroknot and struck-out many of BrandonYusufToropov's comments. Kurita77 used also editing features such as section headings and bold text.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction_2 Hello? Policies and Guidelines, Rules, and all the editing tools are spelled out right here. You obviously wanted people to read them so I did. I didn't want to make my edits look bad. This is supposed to be a professional-quality encyclopedia right?

...

6th edit: Began lecturing Brandon on "No Personal Attacks". Again struck-out several of Brandon's comments.

That's because Policy says No Personal Attacsk and we are supposed to Remove Personal Attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_personal_attacks http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Remove_personal_attacks

...

10th edit: Again lectured about "No Personal Attacks".

Why is this a bad thing?

...

16th-18th edits: Uploaded an image of "Eyeshield 21". Added a disambiguation link to the Eyeshield article. In an email he sent to me, Kurita77 claimed that this article brought him here.

It did. I was trying things out first. I also reverted a vandal who tagged his name into the SNES article.

...

20th edits: Posted a message on Brandon's talk page referencing several Wikipedia policies and instructing Brandon to "calm down".

I was assuming good faith and giving Brandon a friendly message. It was not an instruction, it was a friendly suggestion.

...

22nd edit: Posted a question on AN/3RR.

Because I remembered that there's policy like that but I couldn't tell if I'd violated it, the 3RR policy has a bunch of exceptions. I asked before I got in trouble.

...

All of the above happened in less than 3 hours. It's crystal clear that Kurita == Environknot.

I'm not this guy Enviroknot whoever he is, I'm just me. I came in here because I was referenced to it. PLEASE, just give me back my account. This is completely unfair of you. I don't understand what makes you act this way. Kurita77 _________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Pat Carr

5:54 p.m.

According to the email headers, Kurita77's IP is 66.69.141.11. Sound familiar? That IP is listed on the ArbCom case page as one of Enviroknot's IPs. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/KaintheScio… Carbonite --- Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

...

Why do you keep attacking me?

1st edit: His first edit was made within minutes of Enviroknot being blocked for violating the ArbCom injunction.

2nd edit: Quoted Enviroknot and struck-out many of BrandonYusufToropov's comments. Kurita77 used also editing features such as section headings and bold text.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction_2

...

Hello? Policies and Guidelines, Rules, and all the editing tools are spelled out right here. You obviously wanted people to read them so I did. I didn't want to make my edits look bad. This is supposed to be a professional-quality encyclopedia right?

6th edit: Began lecturing Brandon on "No Personal Attacks". Again struck-out several of Brandon's comments.

That's because Policy says No Personal Attacsk and we are supposed to Remove Personal Attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_personal_attacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Remove_personal_attacks

...

10th edit: Again lectured about "No Personal

Attacks". Why is this a bad thing?

16th-18th edits: Uploaded an image of "Eyeshield

21".

Added a disambiguation link to the Eyeshield

article.

In an email he sent to me, Kurita77 claimed that

this

article brought him here.

It did. I was trying things out first. I also reverted a vandal who tagged his name into the SNES article.

20th edits: Posted a message on Brandon's talk page referencing several Wikipedia policies and

instructing

Brandon to "calm down".

I was assuming good faith and giving Brandon a friendly message. It was not an instruction, it was a friendly suggestion.

22nd edit: Posted a question on AN/3RR.

Because I remembered that there's policy like that but I couldn't tell if I'd violated it, the 3RR policy has a bunch of exceptions. I asked before I got in trouble.

All of the above happened in less than 3 hours.

It's

crystal clear that Kurita == Environknot.

_________________________________________________________________

...

Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security.

http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

...

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Kurita Ryohan

5:59 p.m.

I told you via email that I didn't have cable modem service until this morning. My stupid neighbors are putting in a pool and they cut my lines. It was in and out several times. I have no control over what IP I get. I'm now getting very sure that you were the one who sent the email I just forwarded to this list. Kurita

...

From: Pat Carr <carrp_x(a)yahoo.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 10:54:45 -0700 (PDT) According to the email headers, Kurita77's IP is 66.69.141.11. Sound familiar? That IP is listed on the ArbCom case page as one of Enviroknot's IPs. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_arbitration/KaintheScio… Carbonite --- Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

Why do you keep attacking me?

1st edit: His first edit was made within minutes of Enviroknot being blocked for violating the ArbCom injunction.

2nd edit: Quoted Enviroknot and struck-out many of BrandonYusufToropov's comments. Kurita77 used also editing features such as section headings and bold text.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction_2

6th edit: Began lecturing Brandon on "No Personal Attacks". Again struck-out several of Brandon's comments.

That's because Policy says No Personal Attacsk and we are supposed to Remove Personal Attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_personal_attacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Remove_personal_attacks

10th edit: Again lectured about "No Personal

Attacks". Why is this a bad thing?

16th-18th edits: Uploaded an image of "Eyeshield

21".

Added a disambiguation link to the Eyeshield

article.

In an email he sent to me, Kurita77 claimed that

this

article brought him here.

It did. I was trying things out first. I also reverted a vandal who tagged his name into the SNES article.

20th edits: Posted a message on Brandon's talk page referencing several Wikipedia policies and

instructing

Brandon to "calm down".

I was assuming good faith and giving Brandon a friendly message. It was not an instruction, it was a friendly suggestion.

22nd edit: Posted a question on AN/3RR.

Because I remembered that there's policy like that but I couldn't tell if I'd violated it, the 3RR policy has a bunch of exceptions. I asked before I got in trouble.

All of the above happened in less than 3 hours.

It's

crystal clear that Kurita == Environknot.

_________________________________________________________________

Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security.

http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

__________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Kurita Ryohan

6:38 p.m.

Now not only are you ignoring my emails, you are pasting only your own emails into Wikipedia and NOT posting my responses. To top it off, you blanked my user page after denying me the ability to edit it myself. You are acting in horribly bad faith and I want to know why you are doing this. Someone, please. Give me back my account. I have done nothing wrong. Kurita77

...

From: "Kurita Ryohan" <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:59:11 -0500 I told you via email that I didn't have cable modem service until this morning. My stupid neighbors are putting in a pool and they cut my lines. It was in and out several times. I have no control over what IP I get. I'm now getting very sure that you were the one who sent the email I just forwarded to this list. Kurita

Why do you keep attacking me?

1st edit: His first edit was made within minutes of Enviroknot being blocked for violating the ArbCom injunction.

2nd edit: Quoted Enviroknot and struck-out many of BrandonYusufToropov's comments. Kurita77 used also editing features such as section headings and bold text.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Introduction_2

6th edit: Began lecturing Brandon on "No Personal Attacks". Again struck-out several of Brandon's comments.

That's because Policy says No Personal Attacsk and we are supposed to Remove Personal Attacks. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_personal_attacks

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Remove_personal_attacks

10th edit: Again lectured about "No Personal

Attacks". Why is this a bad thing?

16th-18th edits: Uploaded an image of "Eyeshield

21".

Added a disambiguation link to the Eyeshield

article.

In an email he sent to me, Kurita77 claimed that

this

article brought him here.

It did. I was trying things out first. I also reverted a vandal who tagged his name into the SNES article.

20th edits: Posted a message on Brandon's talk page referencing several Wikipedia policies and

instructing

Brandon to "calm down".

I was assuming good faith and giving Brandon a friendly message. It was not an instruction, it was a friendly suggestion.

22nd edit: Posted a question on AN/3RR.

Because I remembered that there's policy like that but I couldn't tell if I'd violated it, the 3RR policy has a bunch of exceptions. I asked before I got in trouble.

All of the above happened in less than 3 hours.

It's

crystal clear that Kurita == Environknot.

_________________________________________________________________

Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security.

http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________ On the road to retirement? Check out MSN Life Events for advice on how to get there! http://lifeevents.msn.com/category.aspx?cid=Retirement

Pat Carr

6:59 p.m.

I know I'm risking feeding the trolls, (since it's already been determined by IP evidence that this is Enviroknot / ElKabong / KaintheScion) so I'll keep it short. What exactly is your problem with me posting *my own* words into Wikipedia? I didn't feel like retyping my own words, so I pasted them. Many people don't read the mailing list. When your Enviroknot account is unblocked in a few hours, you can respond all you want. As for your accusation that I sent the offensive email, please provide some proof immediately or apologize. I'm not holding my breath for either. Carbonite --- Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

...

From: "Kurita Ryohan" <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia

<wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>

To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked

indefinitely?

Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:59:11 -0500 I told you via email that I didn't have cable modem

service until this

morning. My stupid neighbors are putting in a pool

and they cut my lines.

It was in and out several times. I have no control over what IP I get. I'm now getting very sure that you were the one who

sent the email I just >forwarded to this list. > >Kurita

____________________________________________________ Yahoo! Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports.yahoo.com

Kurita Ryohan

7:22 p.m.

...

I know I'm risking feeding the trolls, (since it's already been determined by IP evidence that this is Enviroknot / ElKabong / KaintheScion) so I'll keep it short.

I'm nothing of the sort. I already told you, I may have gotten someone else's IP. Our cable service is up and down thanks to my stupid neighbors who couldn't be bothered to check the utility maps before trying to dig in for their new pool. I'm hoping one of them hits a power line next. It'd serve them right.

...

What exactly is your problem with me posting *my own* words into Wikipedia?

That you REFUSED TO POST MY RESPONSES. I gave you my responses to your accusations and you didn't include them, knowing that I would be unable to edit on Wikipedia thanks to your block. You denied me my right to respond to your accusations.

...

I didn't feel like retyping my own words, so I pasted them. Many people don't read the mailing list. When your Enviroknot account is unblocked in a few hours, you can respond all you want.

I do not HAVE an Enviroknot account. I only have one account, and you blocked it.

...

As for your accusation that I sent the offensive email, please provide some proof immediately or apologize. I'm not holding my breath for either.

If you DIDN'T send it, I apologize, but I think you did. You're obviously technologically capable enough to have done so, your behavior towards me lends credibility to that assumption, and it was obviously someone on this mailing list who did it. Your refusal to deal with me in good faith is giving me a better idea of what Wikipedia is really like and it's not the rosy place depicted in your frontpage and your call for new users to "be bold" and make edits. Kurita77 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Kurita Ryohan

7:37 p.m.

Carbonite, Are you REALLY that stupid? I don't think so. I don't think this one was from you. If the other one wasn't you then you get my apologies. Either way Wikipedia needs to start policing their admins. Kurita77

...

From: Blank <blank(a)blank.com> To: Kurita77Lineman(a)hotmail.com Subject: Re: You don't GET to respond you fat shit Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:51:08 Fuck off loser. I'm goint to delete your response in a second. I told you last time, this is OUR encyclopedia. Go edit somewhere else. Or go sit on the couch and eat and pretend you're not a fat slobby Jew-lover. Carb, but you'll never prove it.

_________________________________________________________________ Is your PC infected? Get a FREE online computer virus scan from McAfee® Security. http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

Matt Brown

7:57 p.m.

Doesn't this sound familiar? It seems we are having a procession of users claiming that somehow they got Enviroknot's IP. -Matt On 6/29/05, Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

...

Kurita Ryohan

8:01 p.m.

I'm now on 66.69.133.72. You can check it if you like. I told you, my idiot neighbors are putting in a pool and didn't check the utility maps before they started digging. They cut the cable lines and everything has been getting patched and re-patched for the past few days. What the hell is wrong with you people? Kurita77

...

From: Matt Brown <morven(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: Matt Brown <morven(a)gmail.com>,English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:57:39 -0700 Doesn't this sound familiar? It seems we are having a procession of users claiming that somehow they got Enviroknot's IP. -Matt On 6/29/05, Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm nothing of the sort. I already told you, I may have gotten someone else's IP. Our cable service is up and down thanks to my stupid

neighbors

who couldn't be bothered to check the utility maps before trying to dig

for their new pool.

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________ Dont just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http://search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/

Kurita Ryohan

8:11 p.m.

Ok fine. Now I'm apparently 66.69.137.7. I told you, it's been changing every time the cable company has to splice another part of the connection. Will you kindly give me back my account? Kurita77

...

From: "Kurita Ryohan" <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:01:43 -0500 I'm now on 66.69.133.72. You can check it if you like. I told you, my idiot neighbors are putting in a pool and didn't check the utility maps before they started digging. They cut the cable lines and everything has been getting patched and re-patched for the past few days. What the hell is wrong with you people? Kurita77

I'm nothing of the sort. I already told you, I may have gotten someone else's IP. Our cable service is up and down thanks to my stupid

neighbors

who couldn't be bothered to check the utility maps before trying to dig

for their new pool.

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Kurita Ryohan

8:23 p.m.

Why do you people not respond? What the hell is wrong with you? What a bunch of complete assholes you are. Kurita77

...

From: "Kurita Ryohan" <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 15:11:42 -0500 Ok fine. Now I'm apparently 66.69.137.7. I told you, it's been changing every time the cable company has to splice another part of the connection. Will you kindly give me back my account? Kurita77

I'm nothing of the sort. I already told you, I may have gotten someone else's IP. Our cable service is up and down thanks to my stupid

neighbors

who couldn't be bothered to check the utility maps before trying to

dig in

for their new pool.

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Angela

8:29 p.m.

On 6/29/05, Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

...

Why do you people not respond? What the hell is wrong with you? What a bunch of complete assholes you are.

I've put Kurita on moderation so his posts will have to be approved before being sent to the list. I'll leave it up to the regular list admins to decide if they want to block him completely. Angela

Phil Sandifer

8:26 p.m.

As a general note, one will usually get considerably faster results in what one wants if one does not A) Continually nag and insist that the unpaid volunteers are working too slowly because it takes more than 25 minutes B) Begin crying abuse over nothing C) Ask things like "what the hell is wrong with you people." -Snowspinner On Jun 29, 2005, at 4:11 PM, Kurita Ryohan wrote:

...

Ok fine. Now I'm apparently 66.69.137.7. I told you, it's been changing every time the cable company has to splice another part of the connection. Will you kindly give me back my account? Kurita77

From: Matt Brown <morven(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: Matt Brown <morven(a)gmail.com>,English Wikipedia <wikien- l(a)Wikipedia.org> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org> Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 12:57:39 -0700 Doesn't this sound familiar? It seems we are having a procession of users claiming that somehow they got Enviroknot's IP. -Matt On 6/29/05, Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

I'm nothing of the sort. I already told you, I may have gotten

someone

else's IP. Our cable service is up and down thanks to my stupid

neighbors

who couldn't be bothered to check the utility maps before

trying to dig in

for their new pool.

_______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________ Don’t just search. Find. Check out the new MSN Search! http:// search.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200636ave/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

_________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/ direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WikiEN-l mailing list WikiEN-l(a)Wikipedia.org http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikien-l

Gregory Maxwell

8:59 p.m.

On 6/29/05, Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

...

Well Kurita, enviroknott obviously lives near you. Because he's been such a pest we have decided to block everyone in your area who makes edits remotely resembling enviroknott. I'm afraid that if you want to edit you're just going to have to track him down and ask him to move to a new community. Sorry.

fun＠thingy.apana.org.au

10:29 p.m.

Kurita Ryohan (kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com) [050630 06:01]:

...

What the hell is wrong with you people?

Mostly that we're not as stupid as you hope we are? I think that's probably it. - d.

Kurita Ryohan

7:58 p.m.

I am still blocked. Why are you people doing this? What is wrong with you? Kurita77 _________________________________________________________________ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/

Kurita Ryohan

5:57 p.m.

Someone just sent me this. If this is really how you people want to be I will leave. Kurita77

...

From: Blank <blank(a)blank.com> To: Kurita77Lineman(a)hotmail.com Subject: Re: Die in shit fatass Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 16:42:54 Fuck off loser. We don't give two shits who you are. We just don't like new users. This is OUR encyclopedia. You can go to hell. Keep that jap crap off Wikipedia we don't need it. Go the fuck away Jew-lover.

Andrew Gray

5:05 p.m.

On 29/06/05, Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

...

Will someone PLEASE explain to me what is going on? I can't understand why you people are acting this way.

A sockpuppet is another user account operated by the same user, under the pretence it's a second person. (For example, consider I'm arguing with you, and a new person appears on my side. On the internet, it's quite difficult to tell, with no "history", if that person is actually someone who agrees with me, or just myself pretending to be someone else. It's surprisingly common) There are special technical process (I don't understand them either, I confess...) to attempt to figure out if two usernames are being used by the same person; David's comment about "checkuser" means that he's looking into that. Note Habj's comment: these things do take a bit of time, people are volunteers and will do things when they have a spare moment. My apologies if you've been blocked accidentally; if so, it'll probably be resolved, but not immediately - again, these things take time. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk

Kurita Ryohan

5:25 p.m.

Please, anyone? The reason given is this: Autoblocked because your IP address has been recently used by "Kurita77". The reason given for Kurita77's block is: "Sockpuppet of User:Enviroknot (who is blocked for violating an ArbCom injunction)". Wouldn't I have been automatically blocked anyways if I was this guy? Can someone PLEASE give me back my account? People keep leaving me messages and I can't respond. I want to keep editing the page I came here to edit in the first place on Eyeshield 21. Also to the ones who sent me vulgar emails please stop it. Deleting them is no fun because I have to see that language first to know to delete it. Kurita77

...

From: Andrew Gray <shimgray(a)gmail.com> Reply-To: andrew.gray(a)dunelm.org.uk To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)wikipedia.org>rg>, kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] New user, blocked indefinitely? Date: Wed, 29 Jun 2005 18:05:21 +0100 On 29/06/05, Kurita Ryohan <kurita77lineman(a)hotmail.com> wrote:

Will someone PLEASE explain to me what is going on? I can't understand

why

you people are acting this way.

David Gerard

30 Jun 30 Jun

1:08 a.m.

New subject: iCheckUser is broken in 1.5 (was New user, blocked indefinitely?)

David Gerard (fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au) [050630 02:52]:

...

Fred Bauder (fredbaud(a)ctelco.net) [050630 02:49]:

...

> Seems to be a sockpuppet of Enviroknot, see > http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php? > title=Talk:Jihad&diff=17828932&oldid=17827080

...

CheckUser is broken in 1.5, so I can't do IP checks for the moment. I've filed a bug on it, and Tim will probably look into it when the devs have dealt with all the exciting new bugs that 1.5 going live will reveal! What fun ... - d.

6875

days inactive

6876

days old

wikien-l@lists.wikimedia.org

Manage subscription

28 comments

11 participants

tags (0)

participants (11)

Andrew Gray
Angela
David Gerard
Fred Bauder
fun＠thingy.apana.org.au
Gregory Maxwell
Habj
Kurita Ryohan
Matt Brown
Pat Carr
Phil Sandifer